He doesn't believe that there is some inherent skill that makes a pitcher a "closer". He feels that the great closers of the moment were yesterday's also-rans and will be tomorrow's also-rans.
Other than Mariano Rivera I can't think of one other pitcher that has been a premier closer for more than a few years. So I guess he doesn't respect closers. Ray On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote: > I don’t get that, Ray. > > Not sure what you’re saying. > > > > He doesn’t spend time on middle relief because he doesn’t respect them or > doesn’t respect the pool of applicants as they’re all guys who couldn’t make > it as starters or closers? > > > > I really don’t understand the comment on closers? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi > *Sent:* Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:31 PM > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: From Boston.com > > > > I think the bullpen being a crapshoot has always been Theo's opinion. He > feels that closers are the flavor-of-the-month kind of guys and can come out > of nowhere for little money. > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I don't remember a lot of caveats about there being four months to go > before the season starts. I just remember a lot of "why didn't the cheap > bastards just give Victor whatever he wanted?" > > I don't think I've changed my tune. They went and signed one premium free > agent, and they made a good baseball move trading some prospects for a power > hitter in his prime. They spent big dollars on two guys who are still in > their 20s and likely to hold their value -- or at least a good chunk of > their value -- through the end of their contracts. The payroll is still > currently lower than last year's. > > The bullpen is a crapshoot. I'll just cross my fingers. > > Steve O > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh stop. If you don't want real-time commentary on the Sox start a Sox > correspondence with John and Abigail Adams. We all issued the caveat, we'll > wait until the rest of the off-season. I had no idea the Gonzalez deal would > come together this quickly. And Crawford - as you noted - didn't seem like a > precise fit. > > > > Although you seem to have changed your tune on that. Did you reconsider > your position or just pour another scoop of Kool Aid in your morning > Cheerios? :) > > > > The thing with Victor is this. The Sox didn't want him. Fine. Then why > shortchange him on an offer. Just let the guy go. > > > > And what if Victor had said yes? Could the extra $12m on the payroll have > torpedoed the Crawford deal? > > > > Anyway, Theo has $10m to build a bullpen. This is his achilles' heel (and > not his alone.) Let's get'er done. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It's sad, really, that the Sox still have no chance to win because the > penny-pinching bastards let Victor Martinez get away. > > Steve O > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Matthew, can you just enjoy the moment? I could see standing against the > deal in principle, saying the Sox didn't need to overpay for his particular > talents. But why worry about Gonzalez? Theo has that figured out already. > > > > I'd like a little more pop, but I'm a Crawford fan from way back so I > cannot complain. And I'm happy the Red Sox are wearing their big boy pants. > I feel like I'm getting a $50 per ticket effort. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Wow. I never thought they'd go that high for Crawford. He's a terrific > player and he'll certainly help them but I can't say I'm thrilled. If he > gets this kind of deal, what is Gonzalez worth? 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