Good thought.....
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From: Jerry Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 500 gallon tank
A thought on the spray bar - if you put a 1/4 hole at the top where
is comes
into the tank as a siphon - when the power goes off the tank would
only
drain to that hole. Don't do as I did and put the hole where it hit
right
against the side of the tank and made a mess.
jp
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shane Clays
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:41 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: 500 gallon tank
It all sounds pretty good to me. I would also be hesitant about
adding all
new live rock, that's a big chunk of cash. I think Ron was right in
suggesting it, but if the LR he has is truly LR, then you should be
okay
just adding some quality stuff in with it. You said he has about
500-600
lbs. That's a lot of LR. He may consider selling 200 lbs, then
replacing 100
of it back with good stuff, giving him a total of about 400 lbs.
That should
be enough IMO, and if he (you) stack it right, it should easily fill
the
tank and make it look great.
One note on the spray bar, or on stacking the LR. In my experience,
spray
bars are nice, but you have to keep them accessible. I would not
stick it
down behind the reef at the bottom of the tank. If it plugs or
breaks, you
have to disassemble the reef to get to it. I would either keep it at
the top
of the rock stack but pointed down towards the bottom back of the
tank, then
maybe just covered with some top loose pieces so it is hidden, or I
would
stack the rock away from the back of the tank so it is easily
accessible.
One other thing to consider is that if your spray bar is at the
bottom of
the tank, and the return pump is hooked to the sump, and the power
goes out,
its going to drain the tank down to the level of the spray bar,
which could
be disastrous.
Cleaning... I would do it all in one big deal. Personally, I would
take all
the LR out and put it in separate containers, covered with water
from the
tank and airstones (that way you can leave it in the containers
while the
tank refills with RO water) and maybe even in a dark room where the
algae
can not get any light (make sure it is not a room that could have
toxic
fumes in the air). I would then scrub the freakin crap outta the
tank, rinse
it and all the equipment and then just start pumpin water from the
RO unit
to the tank until it is full. You could mix salt in after it is
about 25%
full, with some powerheads and just let it start mixing from the get
go.
That will eliminate the need for any separate mixing containers and
the salt
will have gone through its ammonia thing by the time the tank is
full.
Remember to leave some room in the tank for displacement by the LR.
After it is to temp and full, I would take the LR out of the
containers and
clean it in another container of clean fresh salt water, then into
the tank.
Next thing I would do (next day) is add the algae control crew,
mostly tangs
and maybe some snails (IMO, stay away from hermits).
I don't see why the oceanview canisters wouldn't work. Just need to
make
sure they have the same output capabilities as the Magnums.
Maybe if he can sell some of his base rock, he would be willing to
purchase
Rons recommended equipment all at once. If not, I would think that a
mix of
the two would be the best start. Start with one skimmer and one UV
and then
add a second skimmer and a second UV shortly thereafter. Maybe even
ozone?
I guess my question is, how dedicated is the guy to the tank? Is he
going to
be going reef with it for sure? If so, does he have all the test
kits and
will he test regularly? Will he add supplements and test for them as
necessary? If not, he should stick with a community fish and LR
tank and
make it as maintenance free as possible, which means as much
equipment as
needed, which means more $$.
Just my thoughts.....
Shane C.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: 500 gallon tank
After Ron spending over an hour with me on the phone and
after
speaking to
the owner of the tank this morning we have decided to do a
few
things. He
has what looks like about 500 to 600 lbs of live rock in the
tank.
Most of
it is void of life and covered with a brownish algae. The
bottom of
the tank
has a bunch of green slimy looking stuff on it too. He is
not very
motivated
to replace all the rock at Ron's recommendation because of
the cost
factor.
Going to eventually drain the tank, take out all rock and
fish that
are still
living, scrub the rock as some of you recommended, and
probably add
some
fresh live rock to the tank. There are traces of cor. algae
on some
of the
rocks so maybe it will come back pretty quick. Going to
build a
canopy
hinged to the wall and put 8 actinic 6 foot vhos, 2 daylight
vhos,
and 2 40
watt ac! tinics, and two 40 watt ultralumes on the back.
Going to
use dual
overflows from Ron running to a 100 gallon sump. The return
to the
tank will
be 1 inch plumbed with two iwaki 70's plumbed to a spraybar
running
across
the back of the tank at the bottom blowing through the reef.
Going
to use
one iwaki 40 rlxt split on either end of the tank for top
current.
Ron
recommended two of his big skimmers with deluxe mag 350's
and the
dw962 air
pump which we are going to use. He has some big oceanview
canister
filters
that I was wondering if I could use in place of the mag.
350's but
not sure
if they will do the same thing. Looking at a spectrapure
ultrapure
70 gallon
a day with a 100 gallon reservoir all set up to come on and
off
automatically
with float switch in sump for top off. Going to use about
50 or so
lbs. of
Fiji live sand for the substrate. Going to start buliding
the
canopy this!
week. Cleaning out the tank is going to be a big chore.
Any
suggestions as
to the progression of adding equipment, cleaning, etc. would
be
greatly
appreciated. He really doesn't want to buy all this stuff
at once.
I would
love to be able to start over with new rock but he was
pretty
adamant about
that not happening. Also, going to add two 40 watt uvs at
some point
down the
road. Sounds like a pretty good setup to me and I would
welcome any
comments
from ya'll (as we say it down here). Sorry for the long
post.
Going to take
some pics as I go so you can see my progress.
Glen
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