Nope, just the cotton one's. I don't really seem to get any side effects
from the water like some people, so I don't bother. I don't know if the
one's you are talking about are strong enough to take all the rock handling,
but you could put the work gloves over top of them
Derek
See my reef at Http://www.geocities.com/reefsalot/
Under HEAVY construction!


----- Original Message -----
From: "SteveM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:09 PM
Subject: RE: Changing Aquascape ?


> Derek,
>
> Thanks...
> I have a bunch of those extra large plastic garbage bags I was thinking of
> using...just not sure if they are thick enough...
>
> What about those blue and orange, shoulder high pvc gloves you see in the
> aquarium catalogs??? Ever check them out or use them???
>
> SteveM.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek Walter
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 6:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Changing Aquascape ?
>
>
> 2 words:
> Plastic
> Tarp
> :) Go down to the local hardware/home store and get one of those big 9 x12
> or 12x18 or whatever tarps that you use to cover wood piles, or string
above
> picnic tables when camping, etc, I'm sure you know what I mean, usually
blue
> or orange. I bet you can find them for less than $10. Then move any
> furniture, etc out of the way, spread the tarp out and go to town.
> If you are like me, at my best I will get about a gallon of water on the
> Harwood. And you can always use a tarp, one of those items you wish you
had
> right when you need it and the stores are closed.
> While you are there, do yourself a favour and get a cheap pair of cotton
> work gloves. It will save your hands a great deal of heartache. Trust me I
> recently moved 200 lbs of live rock and if you don't have them, those
little
> calcareous tube worms will take a nice little plug of flesh out of your
> fingers, let alone the "bristle worm surprise".
>
> Derek
> See my reef at Http://www.geocities.com/reefsalot/
> Under HEAVY construction!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SteveM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Changing Aquascape ?
>
>
> > Shane,
> >
> > Yeah...that's why I really want to take all the rock out of the
> tank...just
> > by doing that, the tank gets a good cleaning. I have 20 gallons of
> saltwater
> > already made up.
> > I just hate the thought of 100 lbs of rock lying on a finished hard wood
> > floor...never mind what my wife is gonna think!
> >
> > You think the Mantis will stay in it's rock and be ok while out of the
> > water???
> >
> > SteveM.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shane Clays
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:52 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Changing Aquascape ?
> >
> >
> > Jeff brings up a good point. Since the tank is going to be virtually
> empty,
> > it would be a perfect time to do a water change and get some of the
nasty
> > build up out of the tank.... I think that with my old 20 gallon
microreef,
> > part of the success I had with it was that I moved every 9 months
> (apartment
> > hopper) and when I did I had the opportunity to give it a good
cleaning...
> > just a thought.
> >
> > Shane C.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeffrey bogdanski [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:44 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Changing Aquascape ?
> >
> > Steve
> > I first removed some of the rock and then I kind of got really
> > involved and had to remove almost all of it  because like I said that
> things
> > don't always go the way we plan.
> > That is why you should kind of get a few ideas before hand.
> > I made a mess of things at first and my skimmer went nuts for a few
> > days but everything recovered better than I could have imagined ( I am
> > convinced that my skimmer ( one from Ron's ) kept my
> > organic under control ) I would blow out everything with a power
> > head first next time because you would not believe all the gunk that is
in
> > places that we can not see, ( hence is the reason I
> > ended up making a water change because I sucked all the crap that
> > was left on the bottom, I have no substrate, just glass)
> >
> > Good luck my friend,
> > Jeff
> >
> > SteveM wrote:
> >
> > > Jeffery,
> > >
> > > After you removed your corals, did you remove ALL the rock, then
> > place it
> > > back in the tank according to your design or did you just
> > re-arrange the
> > > rock while it was all in the tank???
> > >
> > > My thinking is to remove all the rock first, but since this reef
> > has been up
> > > and running for awhile, there's a lot of life in this rock and I'm
> > hesitant
> > > to remove it. I'll probably just remove a couple of big pieces,
> > move the
> > > rock to one side, then build it from there. It's not the ideal way
> > to do it,
> > > but at least it will remain in the tank.
> > >
> > > THanks,
> > > SteveM.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jeffrey
> > bogdanski
> > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Changing Aquascape ?
> > >
> > > I have done this just two months ago.
> > > First and foremost take a couple of days and go over ideas in your
> > head on
> > > how and where you will place everything, because things don't
> > always go
> > > together as it seems.
> > > I put all my corals into Rubbermaid containers with the water from
> > the tank
> > > to cover it and when I was done I just siphoned almost all the
> > water from
> > > the buckets back, I left some out because of
> > > all the skunge that was on the bottom. So I also got a water
> > change in there
> > > too boot.
> > > Good luck and I can say that I was happy that I did it.
> > > Jeff from Scranton Pa.
> > >
> > > Jerry Porter wrote:
> > >
> > > > When I had to remove the lunar wrasse from the 110 had to pull
> > all the
> > > rock
> > > > out and took two shoots before kris thought it looked okay.
> > that is just
> > > > me, but it never finishes the way you invision it to be IMO.
> > > > jp
> > > > http://www.krispcritters.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SteveM
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 1:29 PM
> > > > To: Reefkeeping@Athiel. Com
> > > > Subject: Changing Aquascape ?
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > What's the best way to go about re-arranging rockwork in a
> > reef???
> > > > I want to remove some of the live rock in my reef,  then
> > re-arrange the
> > > rest
> > > > of it.
> > > >
> > > > I realize all corals and other inverts should be removed first
> > but would
> > > you
> > > > then remove all the rock from the reef, or pull a few peieces
> > out, enough
> > > so
> > > > you have room to re-scape the rockwork??
> > > >
> > > > I know the best way would be to pull it all out so you can
> > picture how you
> > > > want to arrange it, however, I'm hesitent to remove all the rock
> > because
> > > of
> > > > all the critters..
> > > > Any ideas???
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > SteveM.
> > > >
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