Andy, 

The reference that you make for breaking changes in 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions provides a few examples but is focused on how 
to deal with breaking changes instead of defining what is considered a breaking 
change.  What I meant by material is a change to the interface itself.  The 
versioning shouldn't be all about breaking, but the version of the extension 
interface itself.  A client should be capable of understanding the interface 
supported by the extension, which is the basis for changing the Point 
Versioning value.  

The Extension Version Identifier for the Versioning Extension itself is now at 
"versioning-0.6", meaning there have been 7 interface changes, since it started 
at "versioning-0.0", all with a single Extension Identifier of "versioning".   
For interoperability, a client should have the capability of knowing the 
extension interfaces available and specifying which one they would like to use. 
 When using Opaque Versioning and the Extension Identifier, this would result 
in something like "versioning0" to "versioning6" and requiring a change to the 
extension prefix across all query and response elements.  I find this to be 
non-optimal, but it can certainly be done.  

I don't believe draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions covers the interface 
versioning supported by an extension, since it's focused only on breaking 
changes.  What is meant by a version change is one area of incompatibility 
between draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions and 
draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning.  Point versioning is not something new for 
this working group, since we've been using point versioning of the XML URIs in 
the EPP extensions for a while now for the same purpose.  

Thanks,

-- 

JG 



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On 6/9/26 3:07 PM, Gould, James wrote:
> Andy,
> 
> I believe we first need to define changes in RDAP are material and may 
> trigger a change to the Extension Identifier or bumping the point versioning 
> value. Some options to consider below:
> 
> 1. Is adding any new query features (e.g., path segment, query parameter, 
> media type parameter) material? 
> 2. Is removing query features (e.g., path segment, query parameter, media 
> type parameter) material?
> 3. Is renaming query features (e.g., path segment, query parameter, media 
> type parameter), which equates to a remove and an add material?
> 4. Is adding any new JSON members material? 
> 5. Is removing any JSON members material?
> 6. Is renaming JSON members material? 


I don't know what you mean by "material". However, if you are talking about 
breaking vs non-breaking changes (or compatibility between versions), this 
working group did discuss that topic in much detail. The current outcome is 
here: 
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> 
> We have historically kept the Extension Identifier ("exampleExt0" or 
> "exampleExt1") static through the draft development process, independent of 
> the interface changes. 


Except not always. There are two documents currently in-progress right now that 
have changed their identifiers, one did it twice.


> The only RDAP extensions that registered new Extension Identifiers has been 
> the Profile Extension Identifiers (icann_rdap_response_profile_0 and 
> icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_0 to icann_rdap_response_profile_1 
> and icann_rdap_technical_implementation_guide_1, respectively). 


Isn't this an argument against a complicated versioning scheme? If the only 
extensions to ever be versioned are profiles which did not actually change any 
part of the protocol, then it would seem the existing opaque versioning is good 
enough, and complicated schemes are not necessary.


> 
> We really don't know what would break a client, where should they expect all 
> the data members to be present, will they expect all the query features to 
> work?
Yes we do. See above.


-andy, no hats



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