> I don't really remember as I haven't reread it in a
> long time.  I do remember recently reading an essay by
> de Camp where he talks about Howard saying the black
> jailer or jailers conversed in a language that was
> like the guttural tongue of an ape.  De Camp went on
> to explain how no African language is really anything
> ape-like.  And I believe he mentioned he did some
> other rewriting in that sequence.  I remember a post
> (by you or Patrice, I think) that mentioned it was
> rewritten in the ACE double also.
>
> I'm sure those that deny Howard's racism won't feel
> the wording is anything truly offensive.
>
> Charles Saunders must have felt he was beating his
> head against the wall after writing his essay, "Die
> Black Dog!."

So where do you stand on Howard's depiction of the Hyborian Age Picts, the
degenerated British Isles Picts, or his lack of sympathy for those
once-surface races who have retreated underground against their will, to
degenerated into subhuman or otherwise unpleasant forms?

His wording can be extremely offensive, if one chooses to be offended--and
not just on issues of race.  The battle-scenes and gory descriptions of same
are surely not politically correct by modern standards; his depiction of at
least some of his female characters (even white ones), simpering and in
constant need of succor or assistance, is not endearing by a modern feminist
standpoint.

I don't deny that his work was colored by mores and interpretations of race
which were MAINSTREAM and PREVALENT in his day.  This is not something that
can be just lifted and dropped, without adjustment for context, into the
present day.

Saw Rush Hour II the other day, at my kids' insistence.  One scene depicted
Jakie Chan telling Chris Tucker that he was going to "bitch slap him back to
Africa."  Another scene depicted Tucker saying he would "bitch slap" Chan
back to Shanghai (I think it was Shanghai).  Yet another scene depicts these
two guys on an airplane, where Tucker makes his enlightened observation as
to getting to the bottom of any serious crime situation: "Look for the rich
white man.  There's always a rich white man in there somewhere."  Tell it to
bin Laden: shades of Fu Manchu, with a middle eastern twist!

THESE movie quotes are racially-insensitive comments, aren't they?  So are
Chan, Tucker, and the writers of this film despicable racists?  Have you
seen Jet Li's "Once Upon A Time in China" films?  Now THERE'S racism in
entertainment/writing for you, particularly the first film.

This labelling REH after his death is no different that most of de Camp's
other B.S. assumptions, suppositions, and grandiose intuitive a-priori
insights about Howard.  It's basically the same thing, in fact.

--Mike

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