I like the continuous tone for two reasons. Lack of delays and 
squelch noises, but with the continuous tone you have a way of 
determining if the link is good or has faulted out. Good discussion 
and I do appreciate the ideas and help fron all. My main question was 
if anyone had found inexpensive (or expensive) equipment that would 
operate 24/7/365 as a UHF link with out going up in smoke! ;>)
Frank, KO5S

--- In [email protected], mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I do agree that it's not the best practice technically (an
> arguable point, I suppose), but such animals are common on the 
public
> safety bands. As for security, that too is a debatable point, as 
such
> links use a high frequency tone to indicate absence of a signal. If 
you
> could override the remote site, the worst you could do is get voted 
for
> retransmission. Most people can't simulate the control tone (users 
of
> this list excluded, of course!), as it's not standard on a user 
radio.
> As such, it is a rather highly secure link method.
> 
> But, one thing you could do is to reverse the tone logic and have it
> send the tone when a signal is received. That would decode faster 
than
> CTCSS or CDCSS, so your remote TX would respond faster. The only
> drawback is that you then have to notch that tone out of the 
transmit
> audio (which could be done after voting - one notch filter). Then, 
just
> switch the link TX with CAS/COS. Oh - you would have to switch the 
logic
> in the voter, too, so it sees tone as an active site rather than
> inactive.
> 
> My copy of part 97 is not that old - in fact, it's a URL. :-)
> 
> Another point to add - just make sure any continuous link has an ID 
on
> it that runs every 10 minutes. That part is still in the rule 
book. :-)
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Lee Williams wrote:
> > 
> > My source? Bad memory,,,Ok,maybe it "used to be" but a full time 
link
> > just isnt good practice. Its too easy for others to find and 
fiddle
> > with,jammers and the like. Its easier on the equipment as well.
> > Gee,wouldnt it fall under beacon rules then? Lets just say that
> > personnaly,I would not run a continuously transmitting link. My 
copy
> > of part 97 is so old,it fell apart when I pulled it out,and I 
KNEW you
> > would respond... 73,Lee
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Links with Voters
> > 
> > > Lee,
> > >
> > > Please cite your source. Repeaters USED to be limited to
> > > 5 second tails, but that rule went away over 10 years ago.
> > >
> > > It is perfectly legal for a repeater (let alone a link) to TX
> > 24/7/365.
> > >
> > > Joe M.
> > >
> > > Lee Williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If its for amateur use,full time transmit links are 
illegal !!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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