[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While it's probably off topic for this group I have to agree with Nate, Jim 
> seems to have an unrealistic perception of what repeaters are about. No where 
> in the rules does it say ham frequencies are to be used only for emergencies. 

Now where the hell did I say that????
On the contrary, I made it a point to say ham repeaters do need to be 
used enough that users are familiar with it, and how to talk in general.

> What it does say is that we are a "service" with several fundamental 
> purposes, 
> one of them being "to provide a voluntary noncommercial communications 
> service 
> to the public, particularly with respect to providing emergency 
> communications." There are 4 other paragraphs describing the purpose and 
> basis of the 
> Amateur Radio SERVICE.

Exactly-BUT the public service/emergency comm's aspect is what works 
best to get into sites, get non-profit status, and other things.

> 
> I do have to agree with Jim in that there are far to many conversations held 
> on repeaters that could be held on simplex frequencies. While repeaters are a 
> gathering point in the radio spectrum by way of the way they operate, I think 
> a lot of us would monitor the repeaters more if there weren't so many 
> "babblers" on these channels. Who wants to hear "Now I passing the Wall Mart, 
> Now I'm 
> passing the Burger King, Now I'm passing........" on and on ad nausium. 

That was my point...I hear complaints about ham repeaters being under 
utilized, but when I listen to the same repeaters, I find I have to take 
them out of my scan list because they OVER-utilized.
If you set up a repeater as an emergency comm's system, you HAVE to try 
to make it as available as possible. If someone has a problem, they 
likely won't want to wait for someone to stop talking about their gout.

  I
> would like to see more repeaters pass multiple PL codes or use the touch tone 
> call paging available in many radios so that those of us wanting to use the 
> repeater frequency as a central gathering point could be called without 
> having to 
> listen to all the extraneous "garbage". 
> 
> Art - KC7GF
> Golden, CO

That's a very valid application, and can, and I'm sure does, work very 
well for many people.

-- 
Jim

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"The higher you are, the harder it is to pump."
-Cleveland Mayor Jane Cambell, after the big black-out of 2003




 

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