Hi
Thought I would comment on this radio as I use one of
these rigs in my van for HAM uhf-I am a bit of a UHF
radio junkie.

I have the full programming manual for these radios
and they are only too clever-Basics is you can do all
the basic 5-tone stuff and included are multiple call
-answerback divert functions.
To truely try everything out on this radio will take
you a month of sundays (correctly a lot longer)
If you have no prior understanding of the general
functionalities it can take a lot longer.
I also have the portie which is the TK349 which uses
the same program which is really good.

Over and above you can write your own program within
the intelligence where to tell the radio what it can
do and how it must act when codes are received.
Foer example you can have a number of events written
by you-decode number XXXXX wait then reply with x
number of XXXXX strings OR not ,alert the radio send
external alert message divert the radio onto a
frequecy or make the radio go into scan .

Just an example but as mentioned before your own
imagination determines how you want to impliment these
many features.
As far as these radios they were certainly the better
of the five-tone capible radios in their times.

If you are stuck you can give me call for specific
help and I could scan a page or two beraing in mind
the programming manual is several hundred pages with
examples of writting non-standard code strings etc.

For the beginner you must decide on a code standard.
Many emergency services such as Police and Ambulances
went with the ZVEI-1 standard.standard of 70ms per
tone
The large Electrical company went for EIA tones are
shorter 33milisecond per tone .
We in the Telecom company at the time decided on
ZVEI-1.
One must remember that a 12345 in one standard will
not interact with another atandard of the same number
thus deciding on a common code to start is very
important.
Perhaps hams should decide some where to adopt a
standard -I use ZVEI-1 and some EIA for voice pagers
that I have played around with.(The ones as used in
hospitals etc-make great devices for emergency
situations.
One important area of concern with single tone
signalling remember it is in-band thus take note of
any system in-band signalling that takes place such as
DC-Remote on Micor-other Voting systems that use
specific tones to do the switching DC-landlines or
voice recorders , the use of filters will negate some
of your tones being used so careful implimentation
will do justice

Best of luck in your quest-I also have the tone
standards for all the different formats.

regards

Bradley Glen  ZS5WT




--- mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I do know Europe uses a lot of 5-tone
> equipment, but the fact that
> you had a lot of it was missing from your original
> post, so don't be
> surprised that your replies were skewed based on
> that missing fact.
> 
> I'm not 100% positive, but I THINK you will find
> that there are two
> 5-tone formats - that used by pagers (older ones)
> and that used by the
> European radios. They may be different and the
> controllers that support
> 5-tone only support the US version. That isn't to
> say that you could not
> use a controller that has a programmable tone
> generator to make the
> format you need.
> 
> I can't speak for others, but MY reply was based on
> an equipment
> availability issue, and not a "not invented here"
> attitude. As I said,
> had you pointed out that you had a lot of european
> equipment, my
> response would have been different, and included the
> info above. But,
> I'm not psychic, nor is anyone else on this list
> (that I'm aware of).
> 
> Thank you, and a belated Merry Christmas to you an
> all,
> Joe M. 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Bradly Glen,
> > 
> > Thanks for the only positive response I received
> about 5 tone. Seems like
> > anything new here meets with a "not invented here"
> attitude.
> > 
> > We do not use a lot of 5 tone radios here in the
> US, but recently there have
> > been a lot of European radios being dumped on the
> market. I purchased one (a
> > Christmas present from me to me) to see what all
> this 5 tone (5TVO) stuff was
> > all about. There seems to be little information on
> the web. A search brought
> > lots of hits but most were ads for radios. A few
> hits hinted at the
> > possibilities and explained how the tones worked.
> Aside from that, I have yet to find an
> > in depth explanation of 5 tone. I do understand
> that there are several
> > different standards (CCIR, EEA, etc)
> > 
> > I have had a TK809T for about a week now and I am
> still trying to figure out
> > how this function operates in the programming
> software. The software help
> > files list a lot of functions but do not give an
> in-depth explanation of how to
> > put the commands together to do something useful.
> > 
> > My original thought was that maybe we could use it
> for paging our Red Cross
> > and ARES groups since individual and group calls
> are available. The added
> > functions such as stun and kill would be useful at
> times but of course everyone
> > would have to adopt the standard and that seems
> not to be the case at the present
> > time. I also understand you can do auto answerback
> and other neat functions.
> > 
> > I appreciate you response to my question and I
> will keep experimenting to
> > find out how 5 tone works in this radio.
> > 
> > Thanks, Art - KC7GF
> 
> 
> 
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