In my line of work (cellular) I have never seen a quoted price that was good
for more than 30 days. Most of the quotes I receive are good for 10 to 15
days. then we take 6 months to pay :)

40 bucks- heck that is a tank of gas these days. Buy what you can and build
what you have parts for. the controllers will be the least of your problems
with the project you have on the table. Don't get me wrong 5 bucks times 6
controllers can make a good dent in your project budget. this is a
non-profit project? sounds like the scope of project needs some work. 6
repeaters is quite a bit of hardware to maintain. depending on what the
project is going to resolve I might be interested in supporting your
efforts.

I have no interest in nhrc, but can say Mr. Otterson is a good person to
deal with. I am in the same town as he and can say he is a good citizen.


Kevin King SCSA BSCIS
ARS KC6OVD
GMRS KAG0378
EIEIO 2722
Acworth Georgia


-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Finch
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:23 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


Mr. Otterson,

Would you like me to post the email I got from Richard???

You asked for it!  All I ever asked about was the NHRC-4 as you can see by
the emails, why would I think it was for anything else!  This is a copy of
all emails I have received to and from NHRC.  Somewhere in there I talked
directly to Richard to get the $35.00 per unit in quantities of ten or more.

Paul

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Peter,

You use a PIC processor, not rocket science.  When a representative of a
company quotes a price companies normally stand behind that price.  It took
the two months you spoke of to save up the money to purchase these
controllers at $35.00 each.

I will probably buy these controllers because they are the only ones I can
afford with the number of repeaters I am building, I don't have to like it
though.

Paul

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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Gailunas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:49 AM
To: Paul Finch
Subject: Re: FW: NHRC-4


Hi Paul,

In the 2 mos since you chatted with Rich about this item we have released a
drastic improvement
to the product.   NHRC Version 3 is culmination of 2 years of product
development and testing.
We are unable to offer any discounts on the kit version of this
product.   We believe
that $ 40.00 is an extreme value for what this product can do.

Sincerely

Peter J Gailunas
GM NHRC LLC


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At 11:12 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote:
>Pete,
>
>OK, it was Richard that told me about the discount on 10 units.  Here is
the
>email.
>
>Paul Finch
>WB5IDM
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:07 PM
>To: Richard Cox
>Subject: RE: NHRC-4
>
>
>Richard,
>
>OK, I have to ask, what is the discount for 10 units, it may not be worth
>the difference.
>
>Paul
>
>**************************************************
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:54 PM
>To: Paul Finch
>Cc: Peter Gailunas
>Subject: RE: NHRC-4
>
>
>Paul,
>
>The NHRC-4 complete manual, including the parts list is available for
>download here: http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-4/nhrc-4_manual.pdf
>
>This is the same manual that is included in printed form with the NHRC-4
>kit.
>
>The NHRC-4 kits are in stock.  We offer quanitity discounts on orders
larger
>than 10 units.
>
>Thanks for the inquiry.
>
>Regards,
>Richard Cox / N1LTL
>NHRC Repeater Controllers
>www.nhrc.net
>
************************************************
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Finch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:32 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: NHRC-4
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I am in need of 6 controllers to get some repeaters on the air.  I am
>looking at the most cost effective solution for obvious reasons.  I am
>thinking about your NHRC-4 in the kit form and have a couple of questions.
>Is there a printable parts list for the parts I need to order to complete
>these boards?  If so where can I find it?  Are these units in stock, what
is
>the delivery time on these units?  Is there a discount if I buy as many as
>six of these controllers?
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
>
>

Paul




At 11:44 AM 11/25/2005, you wrote:
>Kevin,
>
>Like I said, I have never owned a NHRC product, I have used 5 MCC
>controllers in the past and have been very happy with them.  What drove the
>decision to try NHRC was the fact that I have 8 repeaters to build and
their
>price fit my very low budget.  I talked to a Rep from NHRC and he quoted 35
>bucks each on a quantity of 10 (only need 8) or more units, got the email.
>A couple of months later after I had scraped the money together I talked to
>a different Rep and he said, no way can we sell them at that price.  Like I
>said, I may have to buy the controllers from them but I will not be happy
>doing so.
>
>You are correct, I am looking at the ICS line and have sent a email to
Brian
>to that effect.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer
>Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:50 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controller
>
>
>Paul Finch wrote:
>
> >Kevin,
> >
> >Thanks, I was figuring that much for each controller, I have one that I
am
> >looking at now that is assembled for just a little more than 80 bucks.
> >
>
>Likely the ICS line?  A few of us here on the list helped Brian with the
>audio sections of his controllers and there is nothing wrong with them.
>
> >  I want to say I have no problem with the NHRC controllers, just how I
was
> >treated when I tried to buy the 10 units.
> >
>
>Repeater Builder (the company) has purchased in the neighborhood of 150
>NHRC-4's, it's our most popular inexpensive controller; which I have
>built about 1/3 of them. We buy them 10 to 15 at a time and get no price
>break.  One has to realize that NHRC isn't making big money on a $40
>kit, especially when you figure the cost of the professional quality
>circuit board and parts, and the time to pick and pack the parts that
>are supplied, so, there isn't much room to haggle.  Maybe you are like
>me, an expert kit builder and won't have any problem building your kit,
>but, that isn't always the case.  Customer support (to some degree) has
>to be built into that same $40 price tag, so now how much are they
>making?  We are lucky that NHRC still considers selling a kit to those
>of us who enjoy building.  I don't know the circumstances, but if you
>are upset that NHRC wouldn't cut you a break on 10 kit controllers,
>consider the situation.
>
>Disclaimer:  I have nothing personal to gain by commenting on NHRC or
>any other company (except Repeater Builder) that posts or is discussed
>on this list.  I am, however, a satisfied builder, owner, seller of
>NHRC's products.
>
>Kevin Custer
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:20 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Controller


I have been watching this thread for a while now, and biting my virtual
tongue the whole time.

But no more.

NOBODY from NHRC EVER quoted ANY price to Mr. Finch.  Further, he has not
been treated unfairly by us in any way, contrary to his repeated statements
on this mailing list.  One of our core values is fair treatment of all our
customers, employees, and our business partners.  We will never flinch from
this.

One of my partners did *email* Mr. Finch that we do offer quantity
discounts on quantities *greater* than 10 units, but we NEVER have
discounted any partial kits for anyone, including our best customers.  Our
margin on the partial kits is just too small.  (We have, on occasion, given
partial kits and even complete controllers to worthy non-profit
organizations.)

We have recently invested significantly in the NHRC-4 with a complete
rewrite of the controller's software, and we doubled the size of the manual.

We believe the NHRC-4 is an excellent value, in both the partial kit and
the assembled and tested units.  We know how tight our amateur customers
budgets are--we are hams too--and this is why we do offer partial kit
products for the price-sensitive.  The price on our partial kits is as low
as we can tolerate.

Jeff Otterson
NHRC LLC
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