I think it's an HP of some sort but someone is using it 
right now and we have to get it back.  The person who owns 
it actually has 2 of them but one needs some work and he 
is probably going to sell it rather than fix it.


On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:09:09 -0600
  Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> If I could afford that equipment I would do that. 
>> However 
>> the thought of spending as much on test equipment as a 
>>new 
>> car is a little tough.
> 
> Totally understand.  Although many good service monitors 
>can be had for 
> the price of a USED car, not a new one -- if that's 
>helpful information.
> 
> :-)
> 
> (I hunted for three years and found an IFR 1500 for $2K 
>in great 
> condition, with a fairly recent calibration sticker.)
> 
>> We do have a service monitor in the group I hang out 
>>with 
>> but it does not have a tracking generator.
> 
> A tracking generator is not necessary (or desired) for 
>this test.  Those 
> are used for tuning duplexers, and sweeping antennas -- 
>etc.  Things 
> that require a "sweep" of frequency.
> 
> You don't need to sweep the receiver - you just need a 
>variable strength 
> signal on the receiver input for desense and receiver 
>sensitivity tests.
> 
> A service monitor is a signal generator by definition, 
>so you have just 
> about everything you need to do the tests already. 
> Depending on what 
> type it is, it may also be able to measure SINAD for 
>you.
> 
> If not, with a little practice you can learn to "hear" 
>about where 12 dB 
> SINAD is, and how it relates by ear to a full-quieting 
>signal.  Not as 
> accurate at all, but you could get a ballpark idea of 
>how well your 
> receiver is working.
> 
> The desense test only requires a known 12 dB SINAD 
>measurement if you're 
> trying to measure how MUCH desense is present.
> 
> Any weak signal as long as it's consistent (even a 
>friend with an HT on 
> a fixed antenna far away or through a lot of attenuation 
>and very low 
> power) can be used as a weak signal source to check 
>whether desense is 
> present.
> 
> What model/brand of service monitor is it?  Perhaps we 
>can help explain 
> how to set the test up.  I've played with a Cushman 
>CE-5, a Motorola 
> 2600 (?) a couple of older Motorolas, IFR 1200's and 
>1500's and HP 8920 
> series.   I'm sure others here could explain how to set 
>up other service 
> monitors...
> 
> Nate WY0X

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