At 6/7/2008 10:24, you wrote:

>Hi Guys,
>
>My question is have you ever put up a downtilt antenna to replace an 
>antenna of the same configuration, i.e. gain, etc. and have been able to 
>say with 100% certainly that the downtilt worked? My 911 center went to 
>high band for fire. Within a few days Industry Canada was on the phone 
>saying that our cross band repeater from low band to high band was 
>severely causing interference to a fire department in Canada. While I was 
>on the phone, I would hear our units coming in loud and clear at the 
>Industry Canada Office. Make a long story short, I had many conference 
>calls between the FCC and Industry Canada and I agreed to Canada’s request 
>to mount a down tilt antenna at the same location of the existing antenna. 
>A week later the antenna was installed and there was NO difference in 
>signal quality from the Alma Hill New York Tower 2,558’ to the location in 
>Canada some 125 miles away. I cut the amp out and used the six watt 
>exciter and I could still hear the signal over the phone from Canada just 
>fine. We finally negotiated a frequency change and I walked away knowing 
>that downtilt in this application didn’t work. I might add that this was 
>not inversion or ducking, the signal was there 24 X7 day after day.

What was the antenna gain & how much downtilt?

If you starting with only 7 dBi & then put 3° of downtilt on it, you're not 
going to drop the on-horizon gain very much.  Since dropping the power from 
(amp) watts to 6 watts (let's say that's 10 dB?) didn't make a difference, 
you'd almost have to add enough downtilt to put the antenna's 1st null on 
the horizon for downtilt to work in this case.  Unless you're dealing with 
a very high gain antenna, doing that would also cut out some of your 
desired coverage.

Bob NO6B

P.S.: you will definitely get "ducking" if your repeater is in their 
migratory path  ;)

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