Gary, this is part semantics, part my error. I can agree with your statement. 
My original statement was that getting significantly off frequency with a 
parallel-fed colinear array would result in less gain at the horizon and more 
at "unhelpful angles."

Looking back at some of my models, I can see that even in the two-element 
arrays, the main lobe may get fairly distorted, but remains perpendicular to 
the array as long as they're fed in phase. This is not the same as tilt. The 
ones that began tilting were things like 5/8 spacing with phasing 45 degrees 
off, etc.

Guys, thanks for making me look more closely.

73,
Paul, AE4KR

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Glaenzer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz



  Paul;

  If the elements continue to be fed in-phase, the main lobe cannot shift up or 
down

  It may, however, become narrower or wider, causing a gain or loss of signal 
at some point below the perpendicular-to-the-plane-of-the-elements line at a 
distance, thus giving an APPARENT shift up or down

  Regards,

  Gary


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Plack 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz



    "No, parallel-fed antennas do NOT suffer uptilt/downtilt as frequency is 
varied unless the harness was special-ordered for factory downtilt. If the 
antenna wasn't ordered with downtilt, all of the elements are fed in phase, and 
they will always be in phase regardless of frequency."

    Jeff, the pattern depends on both phasing and spacing. As frequency drops, 
the interelement phasing, expressed in degrees, remains the same, but the 
spacing, expressed in degrees or wavelengths, drops. If you model a colinear 
array of parallel-fed dipoles in an antenna software program, and don't scale 
the dimensions as you scale the frequency, you'll see the main lobe shift up or 
down, and "butterfly" lobes appear, as you get a few per cent off-frequency.

    In an extreme case, a pair of vertical colinear dipoles fed in phase with 
half-wave spacing has the familiar big lobe toward the horizon. As frequency 
rises, the pattern degrades until, at a frequency of 2X, it becomes an end-fire 
array, with most energy directed straight up and down. This happens with no 
change in phasing or spacing.

    73,
    Paul, AE4KR




   

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