even if the harness is balanced it's only effective at the design freq  so a 
freq change makes a phase shift and alters the tilt / transmission angle ?

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:23:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz



















    
            


not if all matching harness branches are the same 
length
 
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Barry C' 
  
  To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 
  antenna suggestions for 440mhz
  

  
  I should have thought a change from resonance will cause a phase shift in 
  the matching/harness therefore a change in tilt  , or have I been reading 
  the wrong books ?


  
    
    To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: 
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Date: 
    Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:53:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 
    antenna suggestions for 440mhz


    
    
    

    Paul;
     
    If the elements continue to be fed in-phase, 
    the main lobe cannot shift up or down
     
    It may, however, become narrower or wider, 
    causing a gain or loss of signal at some point below the 
    perpendicular-to-the-plane-of-the-elements line at a distance, 
    thus giving an APPARENT shift up or down
     
    Regards,
     
    Gary
     
     
    
      ----- 
      Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      Paul 
      Plack 
      To: 
      Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
      
      Sent: 
      Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:18 PM
      Subject: 
      Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: antenna suggestions for 440mhz
      

      

      "No, parallel-fed antennas do NOT suffer uptilt/downtilt 
      as frequency is varied unless the harness was special-ordered for factory 
      downtilt. If the antenna wasn't ordered with downtilt, all of the 
elements 
      are fed in phase, and they will always be in phase regardless of 
      frequency."
       
      Jeff, the pattern depends on both phasing and spacing. 
      As frequency drops, the interelement phasing, expressed in degrees, 
      remains the same, but the spacing, expressed in degrees or wavelengths, 
      drops. If you model a colinear array of parallel-fed dipoles in 
      an antenna software program, and don't scale the dimensions as you scale 
      the frequency, you'll see the main lobe shift up or down, and "butterfly" 
      lobes appear, as you get a few per cent off-frequency.
       
      In an extreme case, a pair of vertical colinear dipoles 
      fed in phase with half-wave spacing has the familiar big lobe toward the 
      horizon. As frequency rises, the pattern degrades until, at a frequency 
of 
      2X, it becomes an end-fire array, with most energy directed straight up 
      and down. This happens with no change in phasing or spacing.
       
      73,
      Paul, AE4KR
       
       


  
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