Thank you for the advice. This is why I was going to go to a sielded 
barrier strip so that I could easily wire separate connections and 
add feed-through caps if needed. But nonetheless, I'll learn by 
making mistakes and making adjustments.

Go easy on me, Lads, This is my first go at this. Remember your first 
repeater? One would hope that as Elmer's one could help someone out 
without making them feel stupid for asking. I'm sure that it isn't 
deliberate...

Why a preamp? Please read backwards. The primary users will be using 
hand-helds -- low power and rubber duckies -- throught a mountainous 
region. If it turns out that a preamp is not needed, great! One less 
expense. I am certain that the choice of antennas will prove more 
important than a preamp. Besides, a preamp after a duplexer cannot 
amplify a signal that is no longer there.

Baby steps. Outside work is now on hold as the snow begins to fall...

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Kelsey" <wb2...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Why do you feel the need for a preamp?
> 
> Also, to check for desense, you need everything operational. Get 
someone 
> with a very weak signal to transmit while you disable the repeater 
> transmitter. If there is no change in noise on the repeater's local 
speaker, 
> you are OK. If the signal gets quieter, then you have desense.
> 
> Oh, and the transmit and receive audio lines to the controller 
should be 
> individually shielded, not just an overall shield around a bundle 
of wires.
> 
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Ricci" <b...@...>
> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:04 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hamtronics Helical Resonator Preamp 
> orAdvanced Research Preamp
> 
> 
> > Thank you all for some excellent advice for a first-time repeater
> > builder. I have decided to move the antenna to the other side of 
the
> > house and push it up 60 feet. My home sits about ~15 feet below 
the
> > road, so this will give me a net gain of ~45 feet. I'll feed it 
with
> > hard line and do it right. This will get the repeater antenna away
> > from  my own stuff in the shack. The repeater will actually go 
into a
> > cinder block walled room
> >
> > The Vertex VX-4100's are solid radios encased in aluminum. The
> > plastic on the outside is decorative. Using the repeater right 
next
> > door to me and a hand-held without an antenna and 1/8th of a 
watt, I
> > generated a signal and then kerchunked the repeater next door. No
> > desense or white noise. I'll check this with a service monitor 
when
> > it gets back up here, but this test was positive and without the
> > cavities inline.
> >
> > I will use quality DB15 shielded computer cables to soldered 
DB9's on
> > the RC210 controller.
> >
>


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