I have to correct something I said. I forgot that while the PPs are genderless as far as the connectors go, the KEYWAYS are not, so half of the 16 configurations will not mate.
As such, there are only 8 configurations that will mate. See the attached pic. Number 1 is the ARES/RACES standard, BTW. Still, a lot more than two. So, Nate, willing to meet me half way??? Joe M. MCH wrote: > Quote (quoting you - which you deleted from the quotes): "Also just to > be accurate, there aren't "many" ways they can be configured, only two" > > Quoting me (condensed): "Not exaxtly." "That's at least 16 ways to > configure them." That is a FACT, not opinion. I described 16 unique ways > they could be configured. If you require pictures, let me know. > > And you say *I* just want to argue. I presented a fact which > contradicted your statement. I'm sorry if you don't like the facts, but > PP connectors CAN be configured in many more than two ways. If there > were only two, they would not have tabs on all four sides - they would > only have tabs on the one side of the red and the opposite side of the > black (I didn't say right or left because it would change depending on > the front/rear view), as that's all the ARES/RACES standard would > require. I would expect someone familiar with them to have realized > this, but I guess my expectations were too high in this case. > > Power Poles have many more users than just the ham world. I even cited > one specifically (although their standard happens to match the > ARES/RACES standard). There are many other standards that use Power > Poles, and even many other colors that are available than black and red. > > If you want to argue about how many done the right way configs there > are, the answer is one. Either way, your statement that there are "only > two" ways is not correct. > > As I said, I use different configs for non-12V applications for the very > reason to differentiate them from the 12V ARES/RACES standard. > > As was very accurately stated by someone else: You can't fix stupid. The > answer is to check before you connect - period. > > Oh, and yes, I will argue with anyone who chooses to believe their > opinion over proven facts, as they will always be wrong. But, again, you > can't fix stupid, and I know there are people who have their own version > of reality. > > Joe M. > > Nate Duehr wrote: >> On May 9, 2009, at 5:12 PM, MCH wrote: >> >>> Not exaxtly. With two colors (black and red) there is the standard >>> way, >>> reversed standard, 90 degrees to the right both ways (stacked), and 90 >>> degrees to the left both ways (again, stacked, only reverse stacked). >>> There are also eight more ways using "cross-polarization" between the >>> two. That's at least 16 ways to configure them. With more colors the >>> number of combinations goes up exponentially. >> You just want to argue, as usual. >> >> There are ONLY TWO which can actually be PLUGGED INTO someone else's >> connector done the correct way, which was the whole point of the >> discussion. >> >> Anyone managing to get the top-over, or "cross-polarized" ways plugged >> into another connector "done right", used enough force that they'd >> deform the connector or a hammer. They're also too stupid to be >> allowed to breed. Darwin's suvival of the fittest in real-life action >> -- when they hook them up backwards to someone else's expensive gear >> and the other guy beats them silly, I suppose. >> >> Any group of people who are supposed to be a "technical resource" for >> the Country, per our FCC charter -- had better know how to hook up a >> damn 12VDC power connector, or at least know when they DON'T know what >> they're doing, and ask. Or God forbid, break out a VOM and test... >> >> -- >> Nate Duehr, WY0X >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.23/2106 - Release Date: 05/09/09 >> 06:54:00 >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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