This wasn't my post but I do have some thoughts on the subject.

I do partially understand the problems of both sides.  Yes the equipment is 
owned by someone and no one else has the right to demand use of it.  However I 
would also say comparing a repeater to your home station is a bad choice.  On  
your home station if the freq is clear you are free to use it.  It isn't 
"owned" by any one person.  In the repeater world this isn't true.  Repeater 
owners feel that not only the equipment is theirs but the freq is theirs too.  
If a local repeater is not in current use and I also have a repeater on the 
same freqs why can't I use the pair.  I am not using their equipment to do it 
am I?  I know this is reaching but hopefully you can see my point.

I personally own, operate and upkeep 2 repeaters along with an aprs digi and 
igate with a partner that happens to be currently deployed with the military.  
I don't and won't operate these stations in a private mode.  They are open for 
anyone to use.  I will address bad operation with the individuals and direct 
them to the many repeater operator manuals available.  I would prefer to see 
actions taken to require all repeaters that occupy valuable and in short supply 
freq pairs to operate openly.  Hopefully we also would be able to have the 
chronic bad actors taken care of the same as you would anywhere in the amateur 
world (we need some work here too).  

The best (irritating) story is back when autopatches were used before cell 
phones were so abundant.  I received a phone call VERY early in the morning, 2 
or 3 am.  They were just calling to let me know the autopatch wasn't working.  
They didn't get much of a thank you but we talked about it the next day.

My name is Tim Campbell KB2MFS
Co-owner and operator of the N4CKV repeaters
and N4CKV-1 aprs digi

I am receiving digest emails daily so my response may be a little slow.





Re: Closed Repeaters 
Posted by: "Mike Besemer (WM4B)" [email protected]   mwbesemer2000 
Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:03 pm (PDT) 


That's not the issue here and you know it.

Let's see you spend your money to finance a repeater and see how you feel
when individuals fail to respect the rules you set forth.

In the meantime, if you've got something to say, have the guts to sign your
message.

WM4B

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

I can remember when no one could own an amateur radio frequency.

Cort Buffington wrote:
> 
> 
> An amateur repeater STATION is exactly that -- a STATION... just happens 
> to be under automatic control. The owner of a repeater STATION is under 
> no more obligation to allow someone to use it than the owner of any 
> other STATION is. I don't show up at a hams house and demand to use his 
> STATION, just because mine happens to be a repeater doesn't make it any 
> different.
> 

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