Re: 220 repeater

> So it look like the general recommendation is a converted 
> GE or Micor.

A lot of people mentioned using Hamtronics Modules if you 
plan to build your own from scratch. You might go back over the 
Group Posts starting around May through June of O9, you'll 
see posts I made regarding the complete construction of a 
number of 224 MHz Repeaters using the Hamtronics Modules. And 
some folks mentioned they were very happy with the performance 
of their turn-key Hamtronics Repeater. 

There is a folder in the Group Files Section with pictures 
of the first few repeaters I constructed. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/photos/album/1157128983/pic/list 

> That is kind of the direction I was leaning for the group.

The GE and Micor Conversions are not to discounted. I suspect 
the end cost of doing a conversion would probably be a bit 
less than using new Hamtronics Modules. But you will need to 
find a radio and buy or build the modification (kit). 

I was initially worried the Hamtronics Receiver "front-end" 
wouldn't handle a busy mountain top location very well. But I 
was more than impressed with the receivers performance and 
red-hot sensitivity. One would expect the multi stage helical 
front end of the GE and Motorola receivers to better handle 
busy repeater site strong RF issues. But I have both commercial 
and home-brew 224 MHz repeaters operating on the same antenna 
system (yes, I have a 224 MHz antenna combiner system) and 
everyone of the installed boxes works very, very well. 

More options: 
I also bought and installed a Hi Pro 224 MHz RF Deck and I'm 
very happy with its performance. I had to rewire their 
factory repeater chassis to allow the use of a Com Spec 
TS-32 (which works just killer) and its been on the air 
ever since. 

http://www.hiprorepeaters.com/ 


> As for conversions, what are folks using for final amps?

A lot of the GE & Micor Conversions replace the original PA 
with Hybrid RF Modules. The exciter (transmitter) puts out 
less than 1 watt in the typical conversion, which can be higher 
or even a fraction of (1 watt) depending on the radio used. 
The Hybrid RF Module resultant power output is normally 
between 10 to 20 watts depending on the module used and 
drive level. 

The Hamtronics transmitter puts out over 1 watt so I have 
used a number of different PA's... some of them shown in the 
pictures mentioned above.  

I just built a two-stage 224 MHz Amp and I'm getting about 
35 watts output with the Hamtronics exciter drive level. I 
would say a lot of the choice will come down to how much 
money you want to spend. Building and aligning a solid state 
PA is not a recommended first time project for most people. 

There are not a lot of obvious choices for 224 MHz Repeater 
Amplifiers out there... but Hamtronics, TE (Southern Calif.), 
MFJ (Mirage) and a few other mfgrs make them available. What 
power level you have to drive an amplifier with will mean 
everything... You'll realize that as you move forward... 

> Thanks,
> Dan
> KA8YPY

Good luck in the contest... 
s. 


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