I think one was called the Lineman? and another the Toner? I added some dtmf 
and burst tones to my Sinadder 3 with aftermarket stuff from CES and others.

--- In [email protected], "Gary Schafer" <gascha...@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, I never saw that one. That was after my time with them.
> 
> There was another small company in Indiana that was started by a couple of
> ex wavetek guys that build a line test box too. It would fully simulate DC
> and tone remotes, measure line levels etc. Was a pretty nice box but pricey.
> I can't remember the name of it now.
> 
> 73
> Gary  K4FMX
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:Repeater-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dawn
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:29 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Helper Instruments (Voltadder VA 502)
> > 
> > No Gary. I meant Sineman. I'm fully aware of the lineman. That was a bit
> > overpriced for what it did. We had two Nortel units that we bought ex-
> > telco that did the same thing elegantly.
> > 
> > The Sineman was a unit that we received a mailed brochure. I'm looking
> > at it now. The description: " Microprocessor controlled test set
> > features: AC voltmeter,Sineadder,Line Level meter,Single and DTMF tone
> > decoding and portable battery operation" $550 for a short time.
> > 
> > The drawing of the unit shows a square box with a large meter and 16
> > digit keypad on the right. Bridge and terminate switch. 4 controls
> > labeled Mode, Scale,Vol.,& Level. This doesn't have the typical
> > appearance of Helper products. It looks like a keypad entry version of
> > the Toner 3,Lineman,Sinadder 3 with DTMF decode added. This arrived
> > after Susan took control of the company. I can scan this and upload it
> > if anyone is interested.
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Gary Schafer" <gaschafer@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The idea of the dual meter unit was to be able to quickly go thru a
> > circuit
> > > without having to touch the meter to change ranges or change to AC or
> > DC. If
> > > you stuck it on a DC circuit it would read that right. If you stuck it
> > on an
> > > AC circuit it would read that.
> > > Also you could read an AC voltage riding on top of a DC voltage. One
> > meter
> > > would display the DC and the other the AC value.
> > > Kind of handy sometimes.
> > > I may have a catalog sheet of it somewhere around here but I haven't
> > run
> > > across it in some time,
> > >
> > > Yes the mod box was ok but didn't sell to well.
> > >
> > > The other item I assume that you meant "lineman". That was a very
> > slick box
> > > and sold well. It was a line level meter with tone generator and audio
> > > amp/speaker and mike. It had the commonly used tone remote tones built
> > in so
> > > you could check the line level at those frequencies.
> > >  Usually people bought two of them, one to use on each end of a line
> > being
> > > tested. You could talk back and forth to the guy on the other end and
> > send
> > > each other tones and measure levels each way.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Gary  K4FMX
> > >
> > > >  There were very few combination analog/DVM's at service instrument
> > > > prices and the DMM's that had bar graphs didn't have the resoloution
> > for
> > > > trends at the time. I can only think of a few off hand such as the
> > > > Keithly,Simpson had an early one in a 260 type case with
> > > > Nixies,Ballentine $$$$$, and Fluke $$$$. I think Heath had one for a
> > > > short time too. I'd love to see a picture of this meter. I'm still
> > > > trying to grasp what was so special about two separate meters for AC
> > and
> > > > DC. There had to be some of Bill's magic either comparator presets,
> > > > audible alarm or some neat thing that would make service easier.
> > > >
> > > > While the subject is odd Helper stuff, remember the Mod Box or the
> > > > Sineman?
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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