The amateur regulations allow you to use any technologically suitable radio on amateur frequencies that meets the emission criterion of our regulations.. You are ultimately responsible for those emissions and quality thereof.. so in a word.. yes... they would be legal on amateur frequencies if you import it from wherever for you own use...

The rub is that if you import them for sale.. then they need to be type accepted in amateur to sell to amateurs if manufactured and imported for that purpose...

Own use... you bear that responsibility... any form for sale.. the manufacturer and importer do... If for sale for commercial LMR.. that is what we were talking about for Part 90.. rules... where ppart 90 hooks back to us....

Any radio that is sold with part 90 acceptance is considered technologically suitable for use in our part 97 rules...although you are still responsible for any extraneous emissions.

Sorry .. big circle.. but hope it connects the dots were were discussing...

Doug


On 8/29/2010 1:49 PM, Terry wrote:

I would not want to put one on PS or commercial freqs, amateur only. Would it be OK for amateur? The only reason I ask is I do not want to put my amateur and GROL licenses in jeopardy (worked way to hard for them) if I purchase one and transmit on amateur frequencies. For PS and commercial (only when doing maintenance on one of their systems), I only use FCC approved equipment.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>, "Eric Lemmon" <wb6...@...> wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> You make some very good points, but let's not forget that the proof of FCC
> approval is not merely a paper label stuck on the radio; there must be a
> TCB or TA grant published on the OET Web site that lists that specific radio
> by model number, emission, and frequency range. The FCC is currently
> investigating the influx from China of cheap portables bearing Puxing,
> Linton, HYT, and Wouxon brands- some of which have labels that read "FCC
> TYPE ACCEPTED" but without an FCC ID number, and no basis in fact of
> receiving a grant. Indeed, some of these radios share the same internals
> even though the outside cases are different. On the other hand, one
> particular brand and model may have different internals. I have a Puxing
> 777 that has a completely different mainboard from a friend's Puxing 777.
>
> We agree that licensed Amateur operators may use these cheap radios on
> Amateur frequencies without any legal issues. But, the notion that they may
> be used in Public Safety applications is disquieting.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Doug Bade
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:11 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wouxun Radio
>
>
>
> What I see is they type accepted a radio that looks like that one but the > type acceptance number issued does not necessarily mean the Ebay radios are > unless they bear the type acceptance label... There are many models and not
> all may be approved...
> However... in any case.. if you are the importer for your own amateur radio > use... Emissions are your amateur responsibility...ultimately... as we can
> "build or modify" whatever we want as long as our emissions are
> appropriate...re-selling without any type acceptance would seem to be
> questionable.. My hamfest committee thought about giving them out as hourly > prizes... and my caution to them was own use vs distribution are 2 different
> issues on a non amateur type accepted radio..
>
> If THESE particular one do have part 90 labels.. then using them on amateur > ok and is a moot point.. distribution or otherwise.. but if they do not have
> labels.. using for own use would seem to be the limit.. as selling
> un-certified radios or even giving them away would seem to be not legal...
>
> I would be glad to hear if someone has purchased from one of these dealers > and they ARE bearing part 90 labels... then my hamfest committee would be
> ok..
>
> Doug
> KD8B
>
>
> On 8/29/2010 11:54 AM, Eric Lemmon wrote:
>
>
>
> Phil,
>
> What FCC identification number did you use to find the Wouxun
> listing on the
> FCC site? I tried both the name and the model number, but came up
> with no
> listing at all.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of kg6ziu
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:38 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wouxun Radio
>
> Terry,
>
> I wondered the same question about a year ago and discovered that
> they are
> type-accepted. Not that I would allow one on a system that I was in
> charge
> of for PS work. I looked on the FCC website and saw that they
> were...
>
> There is nothing saying that they can't be used on a HAM system
> though.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Phil KK6PE
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "terry dalpoas" <km5uq@>
> <mailto:km5uq@>
> wrote:
> >
> > This may be a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway. I saw some dual
> band
> portables on eBay, new for about $100, made by Wouxun. I doubt very
> much
> they are FCC type accepted. Is it okay to use these on amateur
> frequencies?
> Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Terry, KM5UQ
> >
>
>
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