On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> We are going through this exercise in Fedora 11 right now and have a minimal
> install that is looking pretty good. We may add a feature page to that
> release to highlight what's been done to date. So, I don't think this helps

Awesome news Steve, thanks for the effort.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kenton Brede  wrote:
> I like the way Debian does it.  You can install a very small base and
> then add on from there.  I think this is the way to go for a server
> distro.  But we use RHEL here, so I just pair it all down during
> kickstart.  I was just agreeing with the poster I was responding to,
> that as a philosophy, it just doesn't make sense to install the
> kitchen sink by default.  Practically every security related manual
> I've read starts out with something along the lines of, if you don't
> need it, don't install/run it.

True. I used to run Debian, but the management tools were a pain
to get working. It may have improved, but I used to have to hand-edit
or script stuff in pam.d and rc.d to get LDAP or whatever working. I can
see the advantages of letting ISVs know that LSB is supported, no
additional configuration needed.

> And this is a desktop, not a server.  I can see the benefit of, by
> default, installing wireless, bluetooth, etc.

Yes, but RHEL uses the same codebase for workstations. I want
that stuff to just work. For servers, use NFS portmap or multipath
as examples instead.

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