Holy ?  yes, for USIsrael imperialism, that holiness.
God only enters any picture when people can be frightened by fairy-in-the-sky 
concerns.
The IsraelUS-Palestine event for one thing is that Israel would not exist if 
the U.S. did not keep
making it exist and paying for it.  If we stopped giving it 2b$/year FREE on 
top of that, there'd be
no Israel.
...and there's a lot more.  Meanwhile, the issue is world domination, not 
holiness.
As you well know, there is no god but what hu/man makes.
Norma
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tammy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: [rhetoric-list] Israel and Palestine




Without alot of insults and heckling, could you please explain to me
what the conflict between Israel and Palestine all started about? I
know it's a Holy War and that's about it.  Also, this being 2004, why
and whom has stopped any type of comprimise between these people?
Also, how far apart are they? Just across a river or miles and miles
away? Do people try to sneak over and defect like they have been
known to do here? And last.....WHY, WHY, WHY is Israel always
portrayed as the good and Palestine as the evil of the two?  My aunt
(by marriage) is a born again Christian. She is studying to become a
minister and will accomplish this very soon. I am proud of her and of
her achievements. She has stuck with it and will succeed. The problem
I have is her pushing HER Christian way down my throat. I do my own
thing with God. I listen and learn from my Minister, I am always open
for discussion on religion and I have read some of the bible, but I
am far from being any expert. I have been a member of Bethany
Methodist Church since I was 15 yrs old and I am happy with mine and
m family's Christian Values. But Sherri apparently feels trhis is not
enough. She brings me tapes to listen to, books and what I am about
to disclose is what you have heard from all over....John Kerry is not
a Christain, The Kerry Team is full of tricks satanic ways, John
Kerry is trying to rule the world and is actually a descendent of
Lucifer himself.  Now here comes the good part...."Tammy, George Bush
represents the good, he is pure and a right out Christian. he
protects Israel and will continue to do so as one of our World
Leaders. The world is coming to an end and it will end soon. All the
signs point to it. John Kerry will not protect Israel and you are
supporting his soon to be neglect. When the world comes to an end you
will not be able to go to heaven. You were not one of the keepers of
Israel.

Now, don't get me wrong - I love Sherri and if anyone thinks I am
making fun of her, they are wrong. But come one....this is a little
crazy. WHY is Bush taking care of Israel. What makes them so special
and why is Palestine left off the list. And why are we taking care of
them anyway? Who are they to us?  And to end I will say this, what do
these two countries give the USA? Are they protecting us? Do they
have oil like these money hungry turban wearing nasty looking Arabs
do?

If you could help me to understand the background of this world wide
mess, I sure would apprecite it. I am hear to learn, not to be
sarcastic in anyway. I am an intelligent woman, but this concept is
just really lame if you ask me....Did President Roosevelt and Kennedy
and even President Nixon take care of Israel as well. Now don't start
throwing stones at me, I am just trying to learn.

Tammy



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