On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 14:21, donnella whitacre wrote:
> matt ole boy the jews were living there right a long side of them for
> thousands of years. that is why the land was partitioned to provide for
> both people. the arabs got trans jordan quite a large piece of the pie.
> they also had annexed the west bank, which was suppose to go to israel, and
Paste: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:50, donnella whitacre wrote:
> one more thought, if they had accepted the partition, there would be no
> settlements any were, but people have to live and they have to house them.
//

Keep your story straight, please.  According to this UN Partition Resolution, 
most of the West Bank up to and including Nazareth, was part and parcel of 
the designated Arab State in Palestine.

The Arab palestinian population of Nazareth narrowly escaped being ethnically 
cleansed, and that's because the Haganah officer concerned, once he had given 
his word that the inhabitants wouldn't be expelled, refused to go back on his 
word the way Haganah officers did in Ramla and Lod.

> it would have remained that way if they had not attacked israel in 1967,

Would it?  Israel itself set up confrontations with Syria; that much is now 
taken for granted by historians.
> and that particular piece was returned. how often do you attack some one
> and then get back what you lost in war?

Please read the history of the 1812 war between the United State sof America 
and the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland.
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0022807.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canmil/1812/1812view.htm
http://nvnv.essortment.com/warof_rmfy.htm

More than you think.

> how many times has it been offered 
> to them, and they have refused it?

If somebody steals something from me, then offers it back to me under 
insulting and humiliating conditions, am I right to accept?

> it was part of the ottoman empire, it 
> was never an arab state. so? oh and by the way, when the arabs attacked
> gush katif, they destroyed the vinards and orchards that were almost ready
> to be harvested for the first time, after hard work on the part of those
> settlers. gush katif is the center of wine country there.
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