you know when i wrote that i knew you would take it wrong. i was just trying to 
lighten things up, as you accuse me of ranting. which is a way to marginalize 
what i say.
i do apologise, it was flipent at best. 
other than that, i stand by what i said.
you think you are bi partisan but you are not. when you say they stole the 
land, that is not a bi partisan statement, unless you feel that the partition 
which was carried out by the u.n. under international law was stealing?
garth was not referring to me, you may think so, but unless he says it , i   
dont' think so.
he did however say there is no use in discussion because no one is going to 
discuss it reasonably and that is so.
when every any one says any thing about what the jews have suffered, it gets 
shifted back with out a comment to the suffereing of the palestinians as if 
they alone are here. they are not and have never been. that is the view i take 
and that is that. 
no one is interested in their side of it, it is so politically correct to be 
pro palestinian.
again they are not colonials, they lived there also and had a right to it. if 
you don't want to lose land, don't start wars. simple lesson here. 
again sorry if you were annoyed at the salutation, just trying to lighten it up 
a little. all of you have such big attitudes but i can not with out being 
called to task . but that is the way of it i guess.  
just saw the bottom of your post, jews were driven off their land, ergo 
stealing land. some of what belonged to both feel inside the bountries of the 
other, even trade, not stealing.
sorry you refuse to see that.
in order for this to stop this has to be recognized. jews from iraq lost 
billions of dollar os property, and 126,000 were driven out of ancestral homes 
of generations. want to give that back to them, make it fair? that is just one 
arab country. they lost far more than the palestinians ever did.
and to top it off they want a country and the right of return. which will never 
happen. they can return to the west bank if they want. 
no one is answering this question, how come there is no right of  return or 
compinsation for the jews and what they lost? fair or not?
 they have gotten over it and on with their lives, i suggest the arabs do the 
same. they are never going to get a right of return to flood israel with 5 
million arabs or are t hey going to get all of jerusalem. they have been 
offered east jerusalem , and they refuse it.            
Matt - HOPE Caravan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
partitioned to provide for both people. the arabs got trans jordan quite a
large piece of the pie."

Donnella
Peace,

Matt




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