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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:48, donnella whitacre wrote:
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> o.k wesley lets start arresting them instead?

Good grief, that's what they're doing anyway.  And guilt isn't even a matter 
of interest to the IDF.
>  a lot of those houses are empty any way, another casualty of the truth,
> they build only to take up land and say it is theirs

Proof.  You're making allegations that you fail to provide proof for, then you 
wonder why I refuse to bite?

> and then use it to 
> shot rockets and such into gush katif daily. i think arrest would be worse.
> at the time of the british mandate palestinian meant jew,

And Arab.  And while I'm at it, I distinctly remember someone on this list 
mentioning a UN resolution that gave the name "Palestinian" to those who had 
been in Palestine for only two years or so.  They seemed to think that that 
referred only to Arab Palestinians, in spite of their claims that 
"Palestinian" before 1967 meant "Jew" - if you are right, that was the UN 
bending over backwards to accommodate the Jewish immigrants, illegal and 
otherwise.
> another casualty 
> of the truth. just exactly what do you deem proper penalty for suicde
> bombers and terrorist attacks?

It would be a good thing to stop and ask yourself, "why?" first of all.  In a 
land and under a regime where someone can go berserk with a loaded automatic 
rifle in a house of religious worship, where weapons are not taken, and in 
response to the resulting massacre, the families and relations of the victims 
are placed under curfew and the family and friends of the killer - now 
thankfully dead - are permitted to rampage through the place of the victims 
and destroy it ... well, what sort of penalty do I consider proper for 
terrorist attacks?

Israel's behaved in a totally unacceptable and bigotted manner towards the 
victims of Gush Emunim and its terrorism.  Has it demolished _any_ of the 
houses of the supporters of Baruch Goldstein?  Of Rabbi Kahane?

Au contraire - I've read comments on this list that praise Israel for allowing 
Israeli versions of Austria's Haider and France's Le Pen - Benny Olen - a 
seat in Knesset.  Saying that it illustrates that Israel has a democracy 
mature enough to tolerate such divergences of opinion - the sort of statement 
no one's allowed to make about Haider.

> all the jews should just pack and move back 
> to were? brooklyn?
> considering a great many of them trace their ancestors back generations

I raised this self-same question ages ago, with the question about whether or 
not I'd be allowed a "right of return" to Saxony, since a good many of my 
ancestors apparently derive from there.  Or a "right of return" to France, 
since "Parish" for that matter, is an anglicisation of "Paris".  Come to 
think of it, we humans are a foreign species in all continents besides Africa 
- should we repatriate ourselves en masse to Africa to allow the much-abused 
flora and fauna of the rest of the world to recuperate?
> there or came from the surrounding arab country , were do you suppose they
> should go? or should they just put up with it?

From my point of view, which is substantially that of the Warsaw Revolt, (and 
the Kenyan Mau Mau, and the South African ANU, and so on ... ) anyone who 
turns up with a Baruch Goldstein-type attitude to the local inhabitants, 
deserves all he gets, and the sooner the better.
> my latest reform jewish magazine has for the front cover the title "How
> Iraq's 2,600 year old jewish community was decimated in one decade"

Ah, yes, Zionism's number-one goal was to make Iraq etc, Judenrein, wasn't 
it?!  To bring the "Exiles" home.  And you have the nerve to complain when it 
happens?

Do you really care for Sephardim, Mitzrahim, etc, or are you just after 
anti-Arab ammo?
> care to 
> speculate on how that happened? Sasson Saleb 90, was one of six elderly
> jews airlifted out of iraq to israel on july 25, 2003. with his departure
> 28 jews remained in a country that was  once home to 125,000 jews. that is
> just one country. we out number the so called arab refugee a great many of
> who have only been there one generation. i just got done reading "From Time
> Immemorial"

Yeah, right.  "From Time Immemorial" is a subject done to death by American 
Zionists.  Simple things like mathematical accuracy, simple attention to 
detail, and not being in love with one's own belly-button, are not important 
to the said book's author.
> and if even half of it is true, this is the biggest lie 
> fostered in this century. her documentation is practically another book in
> its; self. what israel has become is a direct result of 54 years of self
> defense.  untill the hatred shown them by the arabs is erased, i don't
> think there will be peace. as i told another poster, sharon is wiping out
> the settlements trying to make it happen,

papering over the cracks on Gaza.  Still controls life-and-death in Gaza, 
still legally responsible for life-and-death in Gaza.
> alienating most of the jewish 
> population. i gaurantee you they will find some other reason why they can't
> agree to peace. i am glad we can agree on something, that is a start. great
> things come from little beginings. Wesley Parish
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Wesley Parish
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You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."

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