================== FIGHT THE RIGHT! ================== wesley if you want a few hundred pages of proof, dont ' be a nut. this stuff is all over the net. i can't keep track of every thing i read and give you reference. that is a pretty low way of refusing to listen. how many articles have i read that in? many. no matter what the un says, someone is not a permanent resident or natural resident after two years, they are still an alien. nor do they deserve the right of return. you hang on any little stupid thing to back u p your arguements for the arabs and over look substantile evidence for the jews. cause that is were you are at. as for their reasons for being terrorist. none. they have been offered time and again, they could if their arab so called brothers were not using them have been settled 45 years ago and going about their business. millions of people transfered after the war. get over it. the jews got some of theres and they got some of the jews. let it go. there is no excuse for what they do. under oslo they promised to curb terrorism before state hood. again before state hood. they have not done it. all bets are off. the jews begged them not to go to war after the partition. ben gurion begged for peace. so the ball is in their court room and there it will stay. as for your 2 years, the jews have been there and a strong presence since oh 1700 b.c.e. that is indigenious wesley. they deserve a homeland. during the pogroms of 1503 or so portugal the christians felt free to murder thousands of new christians or marranos but they didn't touch the forced converted muslims because they had a homeland and they knew that christians would be subject to retaliation.but the jews had no homeland and no security so they felt free to butcher, torture and burn them. all it boils down to for me, the the arabs got enough, they are bound to destroy israel one way or the other, either thru propaganda, birth rate or what ever. and the rest of the world helps them because just like ww2, they dont' really care and don't want them in their countries. let them die there is the motto.
Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ================= FIGHT THE RIGHT! ================= On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:48, donnella whitacre wrote: > ================== > FIGHT THE RIGHT! > ================== > > o.k wesley lets start arresting them instead? Good grief, that's what they're doing anyway. And guilt isn't even a matter of interest to the IDF. > a lot of those houses are empty any way, another casualty of the truth, > they build only to take up land and say it is theirs Proof. You're making allegations that you fail to provide proof for, then you wonder why I refuse to bite? > and then use it to > shot rockets and such into gush katif daily. i think arrest would be worse. > at the time of the british mandate palestinian meant jew, And Arab. And while I'm at it, I distinctly remember someone on this list mentioning a UN resolution that gave the name "Palestinian" to those who had been in Palestine for only two years or so. They seemed to think that that referred only to Arab Palestinians, in spite of their claims that "Palestinian" before 1967 meant "Jew" - if you are right, that was the UN bending over backwards to accommodate the Jewish immigrants, illegal and otherwise. > another casualty > of the truth. just exactly what do you deem proper penalty for suicde > bombers and terrorist attacks? It would be a good thing to stop and ask yourself, "why?" first of all. In a land and under a regime where someone can go berserk with a loaded automatic rifle in a house of religious worship, where weapons are not taken, and in response to the resulting massacre, the families and relations of the victims are placed under curfew and the family and friends of the killer - now thankfully dead - are permitted to rampage through the place of the victims and destroy it ... well, what sort of penalty do I consider proper for terrorist attacks? Israel's behaved in a totally unacceptable and bigotted manner towards the victims of Gush Emunim and its terrorism. Has it demolished _any_ of the houses of the supporters of Baruch Goldstein? Of Rabbi Kahane? Au contraire - I've read comments on this list that praise Israel for allowing Israeli versions of Austria's Haider and France's Le Pen - Benny Olen - a seat in Knesset. Saying that it illustrates that Israel has a democracy mature enough to tolerate such divergences of opinion - the sort of statement no one's allowed to make about Haider. > all the jews should just pack and move back > to were? brooklyn? > considering a great many of them trace their ancestors back generations I raised this self-same question ages ago, with the question about whether or not I'd be allowed a "right of return" to Saxony, since a good many of my ancestors apparently derive from there. Or a "right of return" to France, since "Parish" for that matter, is an anglicisation of "Paris". Come to think of it, we humans are a foreign species in all continents besides Africa - should we repatriate ourselves en masse to Africa to allow the much-abused flora and fauna of the rest of the world to recuperate? > there or came from the surrounding arab country , were do you suppose they > should go? or should they just put up with it? >From my point of view, which is substantially that of the Warsaw Revolt, (and the Kenyan Mau Mau, and the South African ANU, and so on ... ) anyone who turns up with a Baruch Goldstein-type attitude to the local inhabitants, deserves all he gets, and the sooner the better. > my latest reform jewish magazine has for the front cover the title "How > Iraq's 2,600 year old jewish community was decimated in one decade" Ah, yes, Zionism's number-one goal was to make Iraq etc, Judenrein, wasn't it?! To bring the "Exiles" home. And you have the nerve to complain when it happens? Do you really care for Sephardim, Mitzrahim, etc, or are you just after anti-Arab ammo? > care to > speculate on how that happened? Sasson Saleb 90, was one of six elderly > jews airlifted out of iraq to israel on july 25, 2003. with his departure > 28 jews remained in a country that was once home to 125,000 jews. that is > just one country. we out number the so called arab refugee a great many of > who have only been there one generation. i just got done reading "From Time > Immemorial" Yeah, right. "From Time Immemorial" is a subject done to death by American Zionists. Simple things like mathematical accuracy, simple attention to detail, and not being in love with one's own belly-button, are not important to the said book's author. > and if even half of it is true, this is the biggest lie > fostered in this century. her documentation is practically another book in > its; self. what israel has become is a direct result of 54 years of self > defense. untill the hatred shown them by the arabs is erased, i don't > think there will be peace. as i told another poster, sharon is wiping out > the settlements trying to make it happen, papering over the cracks on Gaza. Still controls life-and-death in Gaza, still legally responsible for life-and-death in Gaza. > alienating most of the jewish > population. i gaurantee you they will find some other reason why they can't > agree to peace. i am glad we can agree on something, that is a start. great > things come from little beginings. 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