Dear Song Zhen.

Thank you for the detailed instructions on how to ensure that my footer is
appended to the main text rather than attached. I agree that in-line
signatures are better than those attached (Microsoft style visiting cards)
and probably I chose the "plain text" setting rather than "mime". In the
Rietveld archive https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ where only
plain text is preserved and attachments aren't, my footer is still there,
which makes me think that it is already appended in-line, but I will check
on the server next week.

Your suggestion of how to prevent attachments will also be followed up. I
probably interpreted "publicnomultipart" to be "anyone can send messages",
while I want to restrict sending to members to prevent spam. But the
"nomultipart" seems to be the key to preventing attachments, so I will look
at that too.

Thank you again for your suggestions. I am not an expert with mail servers,
and the SYMPA instructions seem rather complex.

With kind regards, Alan.

On 9 May 2015 at 13:16, azurebayer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Alan,
> Maybe the below information is useful for you to solve your problems:
> 1. The message-footer.txt attachment.
> Per default, your mailing list setting for a footer type is set to
> 'append', which appends the footer as plain text. If you compose messages
> to your list mainly in HTML or Rich-Text format, this might not be the
> right setting for you. The message entails so-called MIME parts with
> different format versions (plain-text and HTML in that case). Most email
> clients display only the HTML version and therefore not the appended
> plain-text footer. Changing the attachment type fixes this.
>
> Email format / Sympa setting
> append                                      mime
> HTML                                           no visible
> footer                         visible footer + attachment
> Rich-Text                                     no visible
> footer                         visible footer + attachment
> Plain-Text                                    visible
> footer                              visible footer
>
> To fix this please follow these steps to set up the footer attachment type:
> 1.Login to your Sympa account.
> 2.Under Your Lists click Admin > Edit List Config > Sending/reception.
> 3.In the right-hand pane, near the bottom, change the "Attachment type "
> by clicking the pulldown-arrow and selecting mime.
> 4.Click the Update button at the end of the page.
>
> 2. Attachment forbidden
> Sending Scenarios
> To change which send scenario is being used for your list, select the list
> under “Your Lists,” then click “List Administration” in the “List
> Operations” section, then “Edit List Configuration,” and finally
> “Sending/Receiving Setup” — the send scenario choices are in the first
> section, named “Who can send messages.” Available choices include:
> ...
> publicnomultipart
>           Anyone may send to the list. Messages with attachments are
> simply rejected.
>
> Good luck!
> Song Zhen
>
>
> --
>
> Song Zhen
>
> Department of Materials Physics and Chemistry
>
> University of Science and Technology Beijing
>
> At 2015-05-09 17:39:46, "Alan Hewat" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear Rietveld list.
>
> Good to see so many people asking for the list to be continued. And even
> an example of an interesting scientific question immediately answered by an
> expert. Encouraging.
>
> So why do I forbid "sinful" attachments ? (No, it's not because I'm
> getting old and snarky, though we all do eventually :-) Think of the
> Rietveld list as a kind of relaxed "Twitter", except that you are not
> limited to 140 characters. And what about Google's decision this month to
> favour sites that can be used on a mobile phone ? Yes, even oldies use
> mobile phones for email. SMS is another example of beauty in brevity.
>
> Then the Rietveld Archive is an excellent record of past discussions -
> without the attachments. Messages that rely on attachments are then often
> incomprehensible - look up that message on
> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Frankly, if you need more
> than that, put it on a webserver with a link to it. Such links are
> preserved in the archive.
>
> If you see my own warning about "no attachments" as an attachment :-)
> perhaps you should check how your email client is set up. Or tell me how I
> can do it differently with SYMPA www.sympa.org I didn't design the mail
> server nor the mail archive. Clearly, it is difficult to enforce a simple
> "no attachments" rule, so what would it be like policing a "small
> attachments" rule ? Even if you personally have lots of space for email,
> our webserver (for which we don't pay) would still have to distribute ~1500
> copies of your "small attachment".
>
> In this particular case, a figure from an unpublished paper was published
> and criticised out of context. Is that really fair? If it's from a
> referee's copy we shouldn't even refer to it, let alone publish it. If it's
> a pre-print, just publish a link to it. But there are already plenty of
> examples in the published literature if you are looking for evidence of
> regression.
>
> So where are the "Apologies"? There are none :-) "Excuse me" is what
> people say when they elbow their way through a crowd. (I only do that when
> I really need to). So if you really need to attach a document, go ahead.
> After all, you can still read the list on the archive.
>
> Alan
> ______________________________________________
> *   Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE *
> <[email protected]> +33.476.98.41.68
>         http://www.NeutronOptics.com/hewat
> ______________________________________________
>
>
>
>


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