Hi, On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 06:27:31PM +0000, Andy Davidson wrote: > Perhaps you might think that this is an accident of how the 728 > document is drafted. Of the four Authors, one is the former RIPE > Chair and now NCC MD, one the new Chair and former/current NCC > employee, and ... Daniel the former nom-com Chair who???s role in > the selection of the community chair I have cited as poor governance. > Do we have so few people in the community that we have to work with > a tiny pool?
If I judge by the number of volunteers for the NomCom, the amount of
people interested in this sort of community work is not exactly
overwhelming.
If I look at who contributed to these documents - that were discussed on
an open and public mailing list - the amount of people interested in this
sort of community work is not exactly overwhelming either.
Daniel has a deep interest (obviously, and still, after so many years)
to ensure the well-being of the RIPE NCC *and* the RIPE community, and
has invested enormous amounts of time both in actually *creating* a
process, where we had none before, gathering volunteers for the NomCom,
and pushing the selected members to do their job - all this in a manner
that was totally independent from the NCC (e-mails went to a separate
server hosted elsewhere, etc.), and very neutral on the actual candidates.
> The heart of my complaint is a passion for bottom-up governance and the
> primacy of community voice in the community.
So - please help make the processes better. Not complain after the fact
that the processes are not to your liking.
[..]
> Yes, this is why I precisely added my support to the request for
> this to get fixed and I am extremely sad that the 2020 nom-com chair
> disagreed.
There is nothing in the process that says "we can change this any time
while it's already running" - and we shouldn't. The NomCom discussed
this at length, and we (not the chair) decided that we go on and do
what we were volunteered for: select two candidates that would make
a good RIPE chair. And so we did.
Now is the time to improve the process.
Gert Doering
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