When you create an event, you can right click in the pre-import carts 
area and insert a possition for a voicetrack - that's yet to be recorded.

On 2011-09-18 13:33, Beau Gast wrote:
> Most of the large groups and stations across the country that are
> music-intensive HAVE to have COMPLETE control over the placement of
> elements in a log. There CANNOT be an "it will place it over an
> element" or "it will place it where it feels like it".
>
> In my case I have to have a jock bed fire with a voicetrack and then
> an out of bed liner which goes into the first song in the playlist.
> For example:
>
> 07:00:00001290 401    03:1300      C   Top of Hour            Kickoff
> Legal ID with Bed
> VOICETRACK
> 07:00:00001290 401    03:1300      C   Top of Hour            Full Legal
> 07:00:00001290 401    03:1300      C   Flynville Train         Last Good Time
>
> If ANY of those elements drop it destroys the log completely.
>
> To really make Rivendell commercially viable it *has* to have a
> build-in function to completely control every element of the playlist
> via the build-in scheduler OR an external scheduler. EVERY other major
> automation system has this function built into some sort of code
> inserted in the playlist via the scheduling program. For example this
> is how to trigger a "soft-branch" that jumps the playlist to the next
> hour in Scott Studios via the Selector scheduling program:
>
> 00:00,*,LI4,DA0011,"LEGAL ID (FM Only)",,00:20,
>
> The ",*," is what makes the element trigger the next hour and it
> functions as a "make next" in Rivendell terminology. The import
> function should scan for this code in the playlist and automatically
> understand that the element is to be the first at the top of the hour.
>
> Not trying to be irritated here but I'm pulling my hair out right now!
>
> Off-topic...can you schedule a voicetrack position via the built-in
> scheduler? That would be a work-around for me if it can be done.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Gavin Stephens<[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>> Same here.
>>
>> On 2011-09-17 23:22, Alan Peterson wrote:
>>> Agreed. Make the Legal ID an actual Rivendell timed event; not an audio 
>>> file laid out as part of a Selector log.
>>> -AP
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Robert Jeffares"<[email protected]>
>>> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation 
>>> System"<[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:52:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Overscheduling&    Top of Hour
>>>
>>>
>>> I would run an event which has the Legal ID in it which is done in 
>>> rivendell not Selector.
>>>
>>>
>>> The legal can be set to play at the top of the hour and bump the over fills 
>>> by selecting play at scheduled time
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Beau Gast<    [email protected]>    
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We use approximately 6-8 minutes of overscheduled music per hour. Our
>>> music is scheduled via Selector. Every hour at the top of the hour we
>>> place a Legal ID via a log event that also moves us to the next hour
>>> in the Selector playlist.
>>>
>>> The issue I am having is the placement of the top of hour id. I am
>>> unable to control where Rivendell places this ID resulting in the
>>> station playing 2 IDs in a row.
>>>
>>> I have tried making a "13th hour" in Selector where music is scheduled
>>> like this:
>>> 01:55:05001656 401 03:59 Keith Anderson Stick
>>> It
>>> 01:59:04900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:59:14002452 401 03:4407 C Eric Church Home
>>> Boy
>>> 01:62:58900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:63:08000766 401 04:0900 F Mark McGuinn Bring
>>> 'em Back
>>> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
>>> 02:00:00001682 401 03:04 Toby Keith She's A
>>> Hottie
>>> 02:03:04900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 02:03:14001667 401 03:44 Montgomery Gentry Back
>>> When I Knew It All
>>> 02:06:58900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 02:07:08002488 401 03:2218 C Rodney Atkins Take A
>>> Backroad
>>>
>>> I have also tried scheduling like this:
>>>
>>> 00:58:45900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 00:58:55001645 401 03:38 Aaron Lines Turn It
>>> Up
>>> 01:02:33900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:02:43002137 401 03:2309 C Phil Vassar
>>> Everywhere I Go
>>> - THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -
>>> 01:00:00001445 401 03:05 Van Zant Goes
>>> Down Easy
>>> 01:03:05900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:03:15002074 401 04:4307 F Brad Paisley Welcome
>>> To The Future
>>> 01:07:58900000 00:10 Liners
>>> 01:08:08004059 401 03:5317 Chris Cagle Got My
>>> Country On
>>>
>>> I have added the text of where this legal id should always be placed
>>> like this : "- THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL ID SHOULD *ALWAYS* BE PLACED -"
>>> as an example.
>>>
>>> Rivendell seems to be ignoring the log times and placing the top of
>>> hour based on the actual log run time. Is this behavior normal or can
>>> this be controlled somewhere in a setting?
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas how I can control this and make sure the
>>> placement of this is EXACTLY at the top of the hour as determined by
>>> the imported playlist? I'm now at a TOTAL loss here!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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