+1: That kind of feature would be really useful for automated hours of 
playback. Jay Ashworth: are you talking about a presenter orientated show where 
they can start the last track to hit the top of the hour?

Mike


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 From: Jay Eames <[email protected]>
To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 18:27
Subject: Re: [RDD] Back timing
 

I can give a comparison with another playout system that I have used (Myriad), 
which might explain what I am personally after.

In Myriad, if the hour is set to auto, and it has a hard timed event scheduled, 
it will adjust the length of the tracks accordingly. So it might trim 20 
seconds off the end each music track to get the transition to the hard timed 
event just right. It knows not to cut traffic carts, jingles, sweepers etc - 
just the music.

In automatic mode in Rivendell, as far as I can see, the music will just play 
track on track with the programmed segues (if appropriate) without regard to 
hitting the timed event. On hitting the hard time it will then just play the 
track, so if it's only 15-20 seconds into a track it doesn't matter, it will 
cut it and play the hard timed event.

I'd love to be able to do something similar to Myriad in Rivendell in an ideal 
world, but would take a way of making the transition to the news more 
acceptable? I am sure there is a way to do so.



On 29 January 2013 18:17, Jay Ashworth <[email protected]> wrote:

Let me stick my nose in here for a bit, totally ignorant of where Rivendell
>presently is on this point, and recap how I've always understood this was
>supposed to be done; people who are using it every day can tell me why it
>doesn't work this way.  :-)
>
>If I schedule an hour of music, announcements, and spots, and all my music
>has properly timed and carted intro and outro segue areas, then that hour
>of music has some "air" in it: I don't *have to* use up all of the available
>talk-over space at each end of each song, and, in a 14 song hour, that can
>amount to a considerable amount of squeeze space in that hour, as much as
>two minutes, I would expect.  If I leave my segues loose, then I can
>tighten them up when necessary to hit an outcue, spreading it over enough
>songs that it's not especially noticeable.
>
>Is the problem that the external scheduler does not provide a way to put
>in the hard time mark so you can hit it?  Or is it that the adjustment
>of "air" in that hour to hit the hard time is not presently something
>Rivendell itself can do?  (IE: is this a lack of metadata bandwidth in
>the schedule data between the scheduler and Rivendell?)
>
>Cause this seems like it ought not to be that hard to get accomplished.
>
>What layer is the molasses leak in?  :-)
>
>Cheers,
>-- jra
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