And it's not possible to use these tools and libraries as plug-in and -out? I mean, for example, for people interested in these, and some of our buildbots, to do "configure+build using libc++ and LLVM" in order to get more info about the code they write in ROS, and in such a way that it is also possible for other people who want to build ROS with e.g. MSVC 2010, to instead "configure+build using MSVC 2010 + older lib" ?
Regards, Hermes -----Original Message----- From: Ros-dev <ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org> On Behalf Of Victor Perevertkin Sent: 18. prosinca 2020. 05:13 To: ReactOS Development List <ros-dev@reactos.org> Subject: Re: [ros-dev] Status Meeting (November 2020) Many words were said already about dropping the support for old compilers. I agree with all of them and want to put one more argument on top of it from myself. There are a lot of innovations happen in compilers and tooling. Big companies put thousands of man-hours to improve compiler toolchains and standard libraries (LLVM and libc++ are the headliners here - everything goes there first). It's silly not to use all of those, it makes finding bugs easier by orders of magnitude (modern C++ makes you write code with less bugs too, but that has been said already). For example, AddressSanitizer will show you out of bounds access right where it happened, with stack trace and memory contents. But there is one thing here, it doesn't work without the standard library support. Of course, we can write that into our own lib (stlport?), reinventing the wheel. But isn't it better to spend time on something ReactOS-related, where there is no open source code available at all? (note: I'm asking about who is going to do that) And if we choose to incorporate libc++ into our project, which supports all of that tooling out of the box for Windows, we have another problem - it can't be compiled with ancient compilers. So basically, the choice is simple - either we support building ReactOS with old compilers (this is not only about MSVC2010, but for everything which doesn't support modern-enough C++), or we benefit from modern tech for dynamic and static code analysis. I prefer the latter. Regards, Victor _______________________________________________ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev _______________________________________________ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
