On 2012-08-28, at 1:05 PM, jimmy wrote:

> 
> Well so-called true geeks are just people who believe they have seen enough 
> to know that Linux/Unix can be customized however they want.  They are not 
> the know-it-all either.  They spent long hours to learn how things are done 
> and replicated those scripts and programs, learning from open-source code 
> available to them.  I simply say that the "geeks" are just determined to get 
> it done be cause they it can be done.
> 
> Pseuodo geeks are either newbies, or wannabe's who haven't spent time to 
> learn how things work, or are afraid of spending time to learn.
> 
> Most people who have spent time to learn how to get jackd/qjackctl, 
> fluidsynth/qsynth, rosegarden, MIDI working on a low-latency Linux kernel is 
> a Linux MIDI geek already.  Perhaps not a Linux sys-admin geek, or Bash 
> script geek, Perl geek, Python geek...  It's just a matter of how much one 
> really wants to learn, and spent the appropriate time to learn, that's all.  
> The other side of that is ignorance.
> 
> Jimmy
> 

I programmed my first computer in 1956 (IBM650).  I  am very fortunate to have 
been actively involved in the use and development of sophisticated software and 
hardware.  In the early days there was no talk of "geeks" . Curiosity and a 
dedicated willingness to advance the state of the art were the driving force.  
Initially, the main tools were the mastering of assembly language as used for 
the misc computers, and then later for the misc CPU's that become available in 
the early 70. High level languages become available in the late 50 and become 
fast more and more sophisticated.  As a young engineer, it was my pride to to 
keep up with the advances as much as I could. 
In 1994 Linux made its appearance and very quickly become a favourite  for 
those who wanted to know the inside of how things were done and who were also 
interested in modifying program written by other programmers. The concept of 
"Open Source" was widely hailed as a major breakthrough, but was also widely 
misunderstood in its usage. Many companies who incorporated Linux into their 
products found themselves involved in expensive law suits or to take the lesser 
evil, paying heavy royalties.

D.Michael McIntyre, the  originator of this thread,  had it right  with his 
statement that "The future of Linux sure looks bleak".  It is certainly true as 
far as the "Desktop" Linux goes. On the other hand, it is not true for the 
Server market. The significant difference is that the server version has no 
unnecessary frills. It is very basic Linux with no GUI's and no clever 
enhancements. 
A number of writer to this thread made reference to their recently discovered 
new distro (whatever !) that is not suffering from any of the known illnesses. 
I can assure them that they are living in a dream world. The next update will 
bring them back to reality.

I still use Linux for the mental challenges it provides me, but for programs 
that I need for my personal use, I prefer to pay in real money and not by time 
spent to make programs work.
I have reached the point in life where I become immune to the accusation of 
being to lazy to learn how to make programs to work.  I rather prefer to spend 
my time to smell the roses.

John
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