On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Tony Li <[email protected]> wrote: > |Do the folks on this group clearly understand the harm that the > |Regional Internet Registries do by denying number resources to > |multihomed registrants based on our assurance that it's a necessary > |evil in order to keep BGP stable? > > AFAIK, the RIRs are, for v4, requiring sane and reasonable justification for > PI prefixes. For v6, they're effectively giving everyone PI. Can you be > more specific about the policies that you're objecting to.
Tony, ARIN policy requires multihomed users to demonstrate a need to deploy 500 machines on the Internet in order to qualify for end-use IPv4 address assignments. This number was selected above the operations minimum of 125 addresses based on the IETF and NANOG advice that their assistance is required to conserve routing slots so as not to overload the BGP system. ARIN policy requires the same 500-machine demonstration for multihomed users to qualify for IPv6 end-user address assignments. This is based solely on the IETF and NANOG advice that their assistance is required to conserve routing slots so as not to overload the BGP system. Entities unable to demonstrate a need to multihome 500 machines are refused direct assignments, resulting in tying to a single ISP and incomplete propagation of multihoming addresses within BGP. > |If we still can't reliably quantify a BGP scaling limit then our > |request that the RIRs suppress BGP growth by suppressing resource > |assignment is simply unconscionable. > > Do we need to reliably quantify where the Earth will reach the tipping point > into a irreversible greenhouse effect before global warming is relevant? Yes, we do. Geology suggests that absent human behavior, the Earth's current trend should be towards an ice age. This is a result we'd also like to avoid. Until we clearly understand the growth pattern associated with human induced climate change and that pattern's interaction with the natural pattern, we won't be able to predict the overall pattern with any accuracy and thus can't rule out the possibility that we need to increase greenhouse emissions to avoid the next cycle of glaciation. The 100-year projections for global temperatures are so much junk science. We still only have a 50/50 chance of predicting the weather next week. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 _______________________________________________ rrg mailing list [email protected] https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg
