On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Tony Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
> |So, it's not that RRG doesn't acknowledge this problem, it's that the
> |problem ought to be fixed (to some extent at least) with the work RRG
> |is doing?
>
>
> Yes, of course the problem exists, but again, it's more to be fixed within
> IDR.  BGP is not an architecture; it's a protocol.  Protocol changes are in
> scope for IDR and architecture changes are in scope for RRG.
>

ugh, my wording was unclear, but I think we are agreeing. ok, all done :)

> |Surely TE prefixes are issues, but that's not the only source of
> |internal route growth... one large one is 'this IP thing, it's kinda
> |successful!' (convergence).
>
>
> VPN prefixes are also wholly self-inflicted and have been well discussed as
> a scalability issue for a decade or more.  No one is required to run VPNs,
> so it's also a self-inflicted problem, just as if you decided to run DECnet.
> ;-)

hrm.. 'self-inflicted'... we could have a long discussion about why
this IP thing has been successful, and how, and where it may go in the
future, and why things like vpn-routes are perhaps important to
that... but, like above, I think we agree that the problem could be
fixed with an architecture shift and that's the point of RRG.

Apologies for the 7 extra messages about internal/external prefixes
and sizing.  back to William's paper!

-Chris
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