On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 4:10 PM Scott Bradner <[email protected]> wrote:

> yup
>
> > On Jun 7, 2026, at 7:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 08-Jun-26 10:47, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 3:43 PM Scott O. Bradner <[email protected] <mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> >>     > On Jun 7, 2026, at 6:33 PM, Brian E Carpenter <
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>    Snip
> >>     >  I think our discussion here should be about ethical expectations.
> >>    Our rules have required that major contributors be acknowledged for
> quite a while - why would
> >>    that not include AI contributors?
> >> I think answering this question would require looking at the precise
> rules in play and understanding their purpose.
> >> With that said, RFC 7322 does not appear to contain any actual such
> requirements. Which language did you have in mind here?
> >
> > I'm guessing Scott is thinking of RFC5378/BCP78:
> >
> > "5.6.  Representations and Warranties
> >
> >   With respect to each Contribution, each Contributor represents that,
> >   to the best of his or her knowledge and ability:
> >
> >   a. The Contribution properly acknowledges all Contributors, including
> >      Indirect Contributors."
> >
> > But I think you're right that it isn't stated as an _ethical guideline_
> anywhere. That's new, and what we're debating is whether it also applies to
> AI "contributors".


Thanks.

I would make two points about this:

1. This text is purely about contributors duty to the IETF, not about what
appears in RFCs. It's entirely consistent with this text for an RFC to
contain no acknowledgements of any names besides the author, even if all
the work is from others. So, at most this would require individuals to
identify AI assistance at the time of contribution.
2. Given the context, it appears to me that the primary purpose here is in
identifying potential others who might have intellectual property claims on
the Contribution. I believe this gets us back to the points John Levine has
been making.

-Ekr
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