On 26-Jun-26 00:55, Roman Danyliw wrote:
Hi!

(as an individual)

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On Jun 24, 2026, at 13:16, Jay Daley <[email protected]> wrote:

My understanding, and I’m happy to be corrected on this, is that 
Internet-Drafts are solely controlled by the IESG under the standards process 
as they are defined in RFC 2026.

I find this surprising and disturbing, but I have no evidence that this is 
incorrect, even after a bunch of searching on my own. It makes sense 
historically, but even in 1996 there were IAB and IRTF documents (and maybe 
ISE-like ones?). Still, someone had to be the owner of the rules, and RFC 2026 
sure looks like that.

And, assuming that this is all true, it doubles down on the idea that this 
discussion does not belong in the RSWG. If the IESG wants to host the 
discussion (and maybe Brian's draft), that's great.

[Roman] To add a few other document references the above conclusion:

* RFC3710 (Feb-2004) says "It [The IESG] also administers IETF logistics, including 
operation of the Internet-Draft document series and the IETF meeting event."

* Both RFC2026 and RFC3710 pre-date the definition of streams which we didn't 
get until RFC4844 in 2007.

FWIW, RFC3710, although Informational, did go through IETF Last Call, so it is 
an IETF consensus document:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iesg-charter/history/

    Brian


Roman
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