See inline. > On 7. Jul 2026, at 22:16, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 1:10 PM Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> See inline. >> >>> On 7. Jul 2026, at 20:19, Eric Rescorla <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 9:38 AM Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> The discussion on which tag applies would be at least based on something >>>> written and consensus based and not just on differing strong opinions >>>> about how to do it right. That should make the discussion easier and also >>>> create less of them. That’s the goal! Maybe it wouldn’t avoid it entirely >>>> but I don’t think that a good reason to not do it as I don’t think there >>>> is a perfect solution (and probably there don’t need to be one; sometimes >>>> you simply need to have a discussion and make a decision). >>> >>> I'm sorry, I don't agree. My view is that adding more tags with detailed >>> guidelines is just as likely to create more debate, not less. If we are to >>> do something here, I would instead replace both Obsoletes and Updates with >>> some variant of "look over here" or "you might be interested in", thus >>> avoiding any debate. >> >> That’s why we also added the “see also” tag. > > And if you were proposing just to replace Updates with "see also" I would > feel differently.
Not sure this proposal came up so far. Mostly people were rather arguing that "see also" is not needed as third tag (see issue #15 https://github.com/mirjak/draft-kuehlewind-updates-tag/issues/15). I wonder how others feel about this…? > > >> Why do you think that “amends” and “extends” are not clear? > > It's not a matter of whether I think they are clear. It's a matter of whether > I think it's a good idea to try to draw these distinctions. I was asking this because you said you assume these tags would create more discussion. So I was assuming you think the definitions were not clear. Or why do you assume more discussion? > > -Ekr >
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