Let's keep the info flowing, but one important point: doesn't that mean ASL
is required? That's a medium problem, would require roughly 2 to 3 month of
re-coding (best guess) features that are currently covered by GPL code,
only.

Any thoughts?

Rainer


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rainer Gerhards
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Just a tiny note due to overload ;)
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Radu Gheorghe 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'll leave it to Otis to give more details, because he's an Apache
>> committer, but I believe there's a misunderstanding here.
>>
>> An Apache project can still be backed up by a commercial company. Lots of
>> projects are, like Solr, Flume (another logging product!) and so on. The
>> main advantage I see is that it's easier for the community to contribute
>> and drive the project forward. It's a model that seems to work for
>> open-source software, and lots of projects who got in there are doing very
>> well - very active, growing, lots of people offering
>> consulting&support&professional services, building more complex products
>> on
>> top of them, packaging them in various ways, etc
>>
>> I think this is an idea that would help drive more contributions and
>> hopefully solve the 24 hours/day problem that keeps popping up lately,
>> more
>> and more as rsyslog gets more attention. To prove the "attention" theory,
>> let's look at some trends for rsyslog and some other products that came up
>> in discussions lately:
>>
>> http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rsyslog%2C%20logstash%2C%20syslog-ng&cmpt=q
>>
>> And the mailing list traffic:
>> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.rsyslog
>>
>> Maybe going to Apache would be a crazy idea in the sense that it requires
>> following that procedure. And people already have too little time. Maybe a
>> less crazy idea is just to put it on GitHub or somewhere similar where it
>> would be easy to just send pull requests.
>
>
> Well... done so 6 month ago ;) This is the initial blog post with some
> progress:
>
> http://blog.gerhards.net/2013/05/moving-to-github.html
>
> Was announced at several places. Overall feedback is "not bad, but no real
> difference".
>
> Rainer
>
>
>> This will not only make code
>> patches easier, but I'm thinking at documentation, tests, issues, all in
>> one place.
>>
>> Not only contributions would be easier, but it would make things would be
>> more visible. Your github profile counts for many as some sort of CV. The
>> more&better you contribute, the more awesome you are (think job
>> opportunities and such). For the project, it would make it easier to see
>> how it evolves: contributions, issues, wiki - again, all in one place.
>> That
>> is familiar to many.
>>
>> Apache takes this idea to a higher level, as far as I understand, so crazy
>> could be crazy-good. *Could be* - I don't know, really, I'm lacking
>> knowledge about how Adiscon and Apache works, although I have some idea
>> about both. Otis, maybe you can say some more about the advantages (and
>> disadvantages)?
>>
>> And I'm obviously curious about what the Adiscon guys have to say about
>> this.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Radu
>>
>> 2013/12/11 Boylan, James <[email protected]>
>>
>> > I agree with David. As a business who developsand supports a product, I
>> > can't see any reason for Adiscon to do so unless they decide to no
>> longer
>> > support and develop the software.
>> >
>> > -- James
>> > -- Sent from my mobile --
>> >
>> > ----- Reply message -----
>> > From: "David Lang" <[email protected]>
>> > To: "rsyslog-users" <[email protected]>
>> > Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
>> > Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:09 PM
>> >
>> > not being an adiscon person, my first question is why they would want
>> to do
>> > that?
>> >
>> > David Lang
>> >
>> > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>> >
>> > > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:05:11 -0500
>> > > From: Otis Gospodnetic <[email protected]>
>> > > Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
>> > > To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
>> > > Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Maybe this is a completely crazy question, but has Adiscon ever
>> > considered
>> > > moving Rsyslog to Apache?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Otis
>> > > --
>> > > Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics
>> > > Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/
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