I have some time next week. Let me sit down with Sphinx and see how 
customizable it is. If it can be customized to generate documentation that has 
a similar look and feel as the current HTML ones, I'll let you know. 

-- James


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:42 AM
To: rsyslog-users
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Boylan, James <[email protected]>wrote:

> In regards to documentation. Have you considered something like Sphinx?
> It's a python application for generating documentation. The nice part 
> being that you write the documentation in a Markup language for Sphinx 
> and it can then be output as man pages, epub, text, LaTeX, HTML and 
> several other options.
>
> I think there are several other tools like that as well. It would 
> allow for a single document source base that could be used to generate 
> final content that is displayed and available in multiple places.
>
>
we had several proposals in similar regards. I think one is still sitting in my 
mailbox. The bottom line is that I need something that gets going very quickly 
... or someone who cares about that and walks me through for a jump start. 
Michael Biebl did so when I initially started with git (I can't be thankful 
enough!) and without him, I'd probably still struggle with cvs...

Rainer

> -- James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pavel Levshin
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 2:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
>
> 13.12.2013 0:12, Rainer Gerhards:
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < 
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks David & Rainer.  The last few emails were very constructive 
> >> and pragmatic.  Based on what I heard I'd think you'd want to push 
> >> things towards Github. Ignore Apache for now at least.
> >> * Make Github *the only* source (i.e. not Adiscon git)
> >>
> > why?
>
> I see no reason to make it *the only*, but it should be more visible 
> than it is now, and, if so, it should be at least equal to Adiscon 
> repo in terms of "actuality". Taking me as an example, I've found this 
> GitHub repository by accident, while browsing through other obsolete forks.
>
> GitHub interface is more user-friendly than git.adicson.com, it has 
> many usable features, and it allows to contribute more than a single patch.
>
> >> * Make
> >>
> >> https://github.com/rgerhards/rsyslog/blob/master/doc/build_from_repo.
> >> htmlmore
> >> prominent (and markup, not HTML)
> >>
> > "markup, not HTML" easy said...
>
> Indeed, but this is a major problem with rsyslog documentation. HTML 
> does not imply anything about how things should look. Therefore, 
> differently-looking doc pages become an ugly, unstructured heap. This 
> also prevents others to contribute or improve docs.
>
>
> Many years ago, I've used Perl POD in an alike situation. It is 
> oversimplified, and this allows to concentrate on contents. It helped 
> in my case. But I do not think this one is suitable for rsyslog.
>
> I hope someone knows a format which will fit rsyslog better.
>
> >> * Link it from rsyslog.com.  Your github repo clearly doesn't have 
> >> much Google juice.  Maybe David can pull some strings? ;)
> >>
> >>
> > that'll happen tomorrow
>
> I would suggest to have GitHub repos crosslinked from git.adiscon.com, 
> also. BTW, some of smaller adiscon repos did not work for me when I've 
> tried to pull via http://...
>
> > what saddens me is that we seem to be conceived as "closed". The 
> > root of rsyslog is that we wanted to provide a real open soure 
> > alternative to an (at that time) becoming more and more closed syslog-ng:
>
> Rsyslog can appear "closed", indeed, because it is not obvious for 
> anyone not on the list that you, being a maintainer, backed by a 
> company, will accept anything. It needs some PR to form public opinion.
> For example, a track of succesful pull requests, or even a "banner" on 
> main page of official site, and much more than that. Try to look to 
> the project from outside, and you'll see.
>
>
> --
> Pavel Levshin
>
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