On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Otis Gospodnetic <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with everything Paul said here, except the repo bit.  I'm not sure
> why both Adiscon git and Github would be needed..... maybe there is some
> technical reason or business reason?


what happens if github fails? SF.net has done so in the past.


>  Would having both create some code
> sync issues?


definitely not -- git is *desgined* to support multiple repositories.
Actually, if you read git's design principles, doing everything on a single
repository is strongly recommended against (Linus called it "legacy mode"
and non-scalable IIRC).


>  Don't know enough about Git here to comment, but one thing to
> consider is user (contributor/developer) confusion - which one should they
> clone, work off of, etc.?  But if you think this is not a real problem,
> then ignore me please.
>
>
I hope that page clears the confusion. If not, re-wording help is
appreciated (or finger-pointing at what's bad):

http://www.rsyslog.com/where-to-find-the-rsyslog-source-code/

Thanks again,
Rainer


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> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Pavel Levshin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > 13.12.2013 0:12, Rainer Gerhards:
> >
> >  On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Otis Gospodnetic <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks David & Rainer.  The last few emails were very constructive and
> >>> pragmatic.  Based on what I heard I'd think you'd want to push things
> >>> towards Github. Ignore Apache for now at least.
> >>> * Make Github *the only* source (i.e. not Adiscon git)
> >>>
> >>>  why?
> >>
> >
> > I see no reason to make it *the only*, but it should be more visible than
> > it is now, and, if so, it should be at least equal to Adiscon repo in
> terms
> > of "actuality". Taking me as an example, I've found this GitHub
> repository
> > by accident, while browsing through other obsolete forks.
> >
> > GitHub interface is more user-friendly than git.adicson.com, it has many
> > usable features, and it allows to contribute more than a single patch.
> >
> >
> >  * Make
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/rgerhards/rsyslog/blob/master/doc/build_
> >>> from_repo.htmlmore
> >>> prominent (and markup, not HTML)
> >>>
> >>>  "markup, not HTML" easy said...
> >>
> >
> > Indeed, but this is a major problem with rsyslog documentation. HTML does
> > not imply anything about how things should look. Therefore,
> > differently-looking doc pages become an ugly, unstructured heap. This
> also
> > prevents others to contribute or improve docs.
> >
> > Many years ago, I've used Perl POD in an alike situation. It is
> > oversimplified, and this allows to concentrate on contents. It helped in
> my
> > case. But I do not think this one is suitable for rsyslog.
> >
> > I hope someone knows a format which will fit rsyslog better.
> >
> >
> >  * Link it from rsyslog.com.  Your github repo clearly doesn't have much
> >>> Google juice.  Maybe David can pull some strings? ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  that'll happen tomorrow
> >>
> >
> > I would suggest to have GitHub repos crosslinked from git.adiscon.com,
> > also. BTW, some of smaller adiscon repos did not work for me when I've
> > tried to pull via http://...
> >
> >
> >  what saddens me is that we seem to be conceived as "closed". The root of
> >> rsyslog is that we wanted to provide a real open soure alternative to an
> >> (at that time) becoming more and more closed syslog-ng:
> >>
> >
> > Rsyslog can appear "closed", indeed, because it is not obvious for anyone
> > not on the list that you, being a maintainer, backed by a company, will
> > accept anything. It needs some PR to form public opinion. For example, a
> > track of succesful pull requests, or even a "banner" on main page of
> > official site, and much more than that. Try to look to the project from
> > outside, and you'll see.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pavel Levshin
> >
> >
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