On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < [email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with everything Paul said here, except the repo bit. I'm not sure > why both Adiscon git and Github would be needed..... maybe there is some > technical reason or business reason? what happens if github fails? SF.net has done so in the past. > Would having both create some code > sync issues? definitely not -- git is *desgined* to support multiple repositories. Actually, if you read git's design principles, doing everything on a single repository is strongly recommended against (Linus called it "legacy mode" and non-scalable IIRC). > Don't know enough about Git here to comment, but one thing to > consider is user (contributor/developer) confusion - which one should they > clone, work off of, etc.? But if you think this is not a real problem, > then ignore me please. > > I hope that page clears the confusion. If not, re-wording help is appreciated (or finger-pointing at what's bad): http://www.rsyslog.com/where-to-find-the-rsyslog-source-code/ Thanks again, Rainer > Otis > -- > Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics > Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Pavel Levshin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > 13.12.2013 0:12, Rainer Gerhards: > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >>> > >>> Thanks David & Rainer. The last few emails were very constructive and > >>> pragmatic. Based on what I heard I'd think you'd want to push things > >>> towards Github. Ignore Apache for now at least. > >>> * Make Github *the only* source (i.e. not Adiscon git) > >>> > >>> why? > >> > > > > I see no reason to make it *the only*, but it should be more visible than > > it is now, and, if so, it should be at least equal to Adiscon repo in > terms > > of "actuality". Taking me as an example, I've found this GitHub > repository > > by accident, while browsing through other obsolete forks. > > > > GitHub interface is more user-friendly than git.adicson.com, it has many > > usable features, and it allows to contribute more than a single patch. > > > > > > * Make > >>> > >>> https://github.com/rgerhards/rsyslog/blob/master/doc/build_ > >>> from_repo.htmlmore > >>> prominent (and markup, not HTML) > >>> > >>> "markup, not HTML" easy said... > >> > > > > Indeed, but this is a major problem with rsyslog documentation. HTML does > > not imply anything about how things should look. Therefore, > > differently-looking doc pages become an ugly, unstructured heap. This > also > > prevents others to contribute or improve docs. > > > > Many years ago, I've used Perl POD in an alike situation. It is > > oversimplified, and this allows to concentrate on contents. It helped in > my > > case. But I do not think this one is suitable for rsyslog. > > > > I hope someone knows a format which will fit rsyslog better. > > > > > > * Link it from rsyslog.com. Your github repo clearly doesn't have much > >>> Google juice. Maybe David can pull some strings? ;) > >>> > >>> > >>> that'll happen tomorrow > >> > > > > I would suggest to have GitHub repos crosslinked from git.adiscon.com, > > also. BTW, some of smaller adiscon repos did not work for me when I've > > tried to pull via http://... > > > > > > what saddens me is that we seem to be conceived as "closed". The root of > >> rsyslog is that we wanted to provide a real open soure alternative to an > >> (at that time) becoming more and more closed syslog-ng: > >> > > > > Rsyslog can appear "closed", indeed, because it is not obvious for anyone > > not on the list that you, being a maintainer, backed by a company, will > > accept anything. It needs some PR to form public opinion. For example, a > > track of succesful pull requests, or even a "banner" on main page of > > official site, and much more than that. Try to look to the project from > > outside, and you'll see. > > > > > > -- > > Pavel Levshin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rsyslog mailing list > > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > > of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you > > DON'T LIKE THAT. > > > _______________________________________________ > rsyslog mailing list > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > of sites beyond our control. 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