Aha, that's what I suspected, which is why I wanted to explicitly said I'm probably missing something about git. Looks like I was missing one of the core git properties :) Thanks for the info, makes sense to keep both.
Otis -- Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rainer Gerhards <[email protected]>wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Rainer Gerhards > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I agree with everything Paul said here, except the repo bit. I'm not > sure > >> why both Adiscon git and Github would be needed..... maybe there is some > >> technical reason or business reason? > > > > > > what happens if github fails? SF.net has done so in the past. > > > > > >> Would having both create some code > >> sync issues? > > > > > > definitely not -- git is *desgined* to support multiple repositories. > > Actually, if you read git's design principles, doing everything on a > single > > repository is strongly recommended against (Linus called it "legacy mode" > > and non-scalable IIRC). > > > > > >> Don't know enough about Git here to comment, but one thing to > >> consider is user (contributor/developer) confusion - which one should > they > >> clone, work off of, etc.? > > > > > > forgot this one, sorry. If you know git (and not just the github > front-end), you know that this really is no issue at all, because there are > always multiple repositories. It's impossile to work with git without > having your local one. > > If you don't know git, you can still use the github site. It's just another > published repo. > > no bashing, just facts... > Rainer > > > But if you think this is not a real problem, > >> then ignore me please. > >> > >> > > I hope that page clears the confusion. If not, re-wording help is > > appreciated (or finger-pointing at what's bad): > > > > http://www.rsyslog.com/where-to-find-the-rsyslog-source-code/ > > > > Thanks again, > > Rainer > > > > > >> Otis > >> -- > >> Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics > >> Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Pavel Levshin <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > 13.12.2013 0:12, Rainer Gerhards: > >> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < > >> >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks David & Rainer. The last few emails were very constructive > and > >> >>> pragmatic. Based on what I heard I'd think you'd want to push > things > >> >>> towards Github. Ignore Apache for now at least. > >> >>> * Make Github *the only* source (i.e. not Adiscon git) > >> >>> > >> >>> why? > >> >> > >> > > >> > I see no reason to make it *the only*, but it should be more visible > >> than > >> > it is now, and, if so, it should be at least equal to Adiscon repo in > >> terms > >> > of "actuality". Taking me as an example, I've found this GitHub > >> repository > >> > by accident, while browsing through other obsolete forks. > >> > > >> > GitHub interface is more user-friendly than git.adicson.com, it has > >> many > >> > usable features, and it allows to contribute more than a single patch. > >> > > >> > > >> > * Make > >> >>> > >> >>> https://github.com/rgerhards/rsyslog/blob/master/doc/build_ > >> >>> from_repo.htmlmore > >> >>> prominent (and markup, not HTML) > >> >>> > >> >>> "markup, not HTML" easy said... > >> >> > >> > > >> > Indeed, but this is a major problem with rsyslog documentation. HTML > >> does > >> > not imply anything about how things should look. Therefore, > >> > differently-looking doc pages become an ugly, unstructured heap. This > >> also > >> > prevents others to contribute or improve docs. > >> > > >> > Many years ago, I've used Perl POD in an alike situation. It is > >> > oversimplified, and this allows to concentrate on contents. It helped > >> in my > >> > case. But I do not think this one is suitable for rsyslog. > >> > > >> > I hope someone knows a format which will fit rsyslog better. > >> > > >> > > >> > * Link it from rsyslog.com. Your github repo clearly doesn't have > >> much > >> >>> Google juice. Maybe David can pull some strings? ;) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> that'll happen tomorrow > >> >> > >> > > >> > I would suggest to have GitHub repos crosslinked from git.adiscon.com > , > >> > also. BTW, some of smaller adiscon repos did not work for me when I've > >> > tried to pull via http://... > >> > > >> > > >> > what saddens me is that we seem to be conceived as "closed". The root > >> of > >> >> rsyslog is that we wanted to provide a real open soure alternative to > >> an > >> >> (at that time) becoming more and more closed syslog-ng: > >> >> > >> > > >> > Rsyslog can appear "closed", indeed, because it is not obvious for > >> anyone > >> > not on the list that you, being a maintainer, backed by a company, > will > >> > accept anything. It needs some PR to form public opinion. For > example, a > >> > track of succesful pull requests, or even a "banner" on main page of > >> > official site, and much more than that. Try to look to the project > from > >> > outside, and you'll see. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Pavel Levshin > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > rsyslog mailing list > >> > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > >> > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > >> > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > >> > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a > myriad > >> > of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you > >> > DON'T LIKE THAT. > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rsyslog mailing list > >> http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > >> http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > >> What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > >> NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > >> of sites beyond our control. 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