I'll definitely look at that! :)

Thanks!

-- James

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:50 AM
To: rsyslog-users
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?

ha, I knew it. Sphinx *is* on the mile-long list. You may want to join forces 
with Jerome or build on his PoC (I think it was complete). Details see ML 
thread:

http://lists.adiscon.net/pipermail/rsyslog/2013-May/032506.html

Rainer


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Boylan, James <[email protected]>wrote:

> I have some time next week. Let me sit down with Sphinx and see how 
> customizable it is. If it can be customized to generate documentation 
> that has a similar look and feel as the current HTML ones, I'll let you know.
>
> -- James
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:42 AM
> To: rsyslog-users
> Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Boylan, James 
> <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > In regards to documentation. Have you considered something like Sphinx?
> > It's a python application for generating documentation. The nice 
> > part being that you write the documentation in a Markup language for 
> > Sphinx and it can then be output as man pages, epub, text, LaTeX, 
> > HTML and several other options.
> >
> > I think there are several other tools like that as well. It would 
> > allow for a single document source base that could be used to 
> > generate final content that is displayed and available in multiple places.
> >
> >
> we had several proposals in similar regards. I think one is still 
> sitting in my mailbox. The bottom line is that I need something that 
> gets going very quickly ... or someone who cares about that and walks 
> me through for a jump start. Michael Biebl did so when I initially 
> started with git (I can't be thankful enough!) and without him, I'd 
> probably still struggle with cvs...
>
> Rainer
>
> > -- James
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pavel Levshin
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 2:38 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
> >
> > 13.12.2013 0:12, Rainer Gerhards:
> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Otis Gospodnetic < 
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks David & Rainer.  The last few emails were very 
> > >> constructive and pragmatic.  Based on what I heard I'd think 
> > >> you'd want to push things towards Github. Ignore Apache for now at least.
> > >> * Make Github *the only* source (i.e. not Adiscon git)
> > >>
> > > why?
> >
> > I see no reason to make it *the only*, but it should be more visible 
> > than it is now, and, if so, it should be at least equal to Adiscon 
> > repo in terms of "actuality". Taking me as an example, I've found 
> > this GitHub repository by accident, while browsing through other 
> > obsolete
> forks.
> >
> > GitHub interface is more user-friendly than git.adicson.com, it has 
> > many usable features, and it allows to contribute more than a single
> patch.
> >
> > >> * Make
> > >>
> > >> https://github.com/rgerhards/rsyslog/blob/master/doc/build_from_repo.
> > >> htmlmore
> > >> prominent (and markup, not HTML)
> > >>
> > > "markup, not HTML" easy said...
> >
> > Indeed, but this is a major problem with rsyslog documentation. HTML 
> > does not imply anything about how things should look. Therefore, 
> > differently-looking doc pages become an ugly, unstructured heap. 
> > This also prevents others to contribute or improve docs.
> >
> >
> > Many years ago, I've used Perl POD in an alike situation. It is 
> > oversimplified, and this allows to concentrate on contents. It 
> > helped in my case. But I do not think this one is suitable for rsyslog.
> >
> > I hope someone knows a format which will fit rsyslog better.
> >
> > >> * Link it from rsyslog.com.  Your github repo clearly doesn't 
> > >> have much Google juice.  Maybe David can pull some strings? ;)
> > >>
> > >>
> > > that'll happen tomorrow
> >
> > I would suggest to have GitHub repos crosslinked from 
> > git.adiscon.com, also. BTW, some of smaller adiscon repos did not 
> > work for me when I've tried to pull via http://...
> >
> > > what saddens me is that we seem to be conceived as "closed". The 
> > > root of rsyslog is that we wanted to provide a real open soure 
> > > alternative to an (at that time) becoming more and more closed
> syslog-ng:
> >
> > Rsyslog can appear "closed", indeed, because it is not obvious for 
> > anyone not on the list that you, being a maintainer, backed by a 
> > company, will accept anything. It needs some PR to form public opinion.
> > For example, a track of succesful pull requests, or even a "banner" 
> > on main page of official site, and much more than that. Try to look 
> > to the project from outside, and you'll see.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pavel Levshin
> >
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