On 04/23/2014 01:46 AM, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Erik Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
On 04/22/2014 12:30 AM, Radu Gheorghe wrote:
Hi Erik,
From the front page, if you click on "older versions and packages" on the
upper-right side, it gets you here:
http://www.rsyslog.com/downloads/download-other/
But it's not that obvious that you should go there for packages, because
the saying "older versions" kind of makes you ignore that link.
thanks! It's like invisibility cloak :)
it would be great if the wording was improved so that it reflects what
it is.
I think it would help if we changed it to "packages and old versions", we
will do so soon.
I liked how the old site had down load link and repos right in the menu.
At least Download link could be in menu under 'PROJECT'. I mean getting and
installing of rsyslog is one of the main reasons one would come to the page.
Yeah, the problem is that there are many different likings. With the old
site, we tried to be everybodies darling, and it ended up to be an
unnavigable and unmaintainable mess. It started with mail excahnges like
these, where someone said "I don't see this link, can't we add another one
at another location". And we did. Again and again... In the end, we had the
same information at very many places and the menu was so cloaked that it
was unusable.
With the new site, we have a strict "keep it simple, one link must be
enough" paradigm. Of course, we still accept changes for the better. It
just means the old way needs to go away. To initiate this process, I
suggest to open an issue tracker on the rsyslog-website project (
https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-website ), describe within it how
exactly it should look like and find some supporters. When there are
sufficient supports and they are more than people who object the change,
we'll happily apply it.
I strongly fear that if we don't follow this procedure, we will in 2 years
and up exactly where we have been three month ago.
makes perfect sense, I create issue on git hub
https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog-website/issues/26
I did include specific suggestions but of course, not expecting
anything specific, just hoping that the links to repos and github will
be more prominent/obvious, one way or another...
thanks!
erik
On the plus side, if you click on the download link of versions on the
front page, you get to a page where you're also linked to the packages.
The
only problem I see there is that for v8 stable you have no link to Debian
packages, even though there is a Debian repo for it:
http://www.rsyslog.com/downloads/download-v8-stable/
Right now it's a bit inconsistent, 'Current Versions' lists 3 versions
which then point to different Ubuntu repos links:
stable: 8.2.1
Download: www.rsyslog.com/downloads/download-v8-stable/
Ubuntu repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/adiscon/v8-stable/
stable: 7.6.3
Download: www.rsyslog.com/downloads/download-v7-stable/
Ubuntu repo: http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/
devel: 8.3.0
Download: www.rsyslog.com/downloads/download-v8-devel/
Ubuntu repo: http://ubuntu.adiscon.com/v8-devel/ - this link is not valid
anymore (it has a link to http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ so
people eventually find the right repo)
Ubuntu repos links for 8.2.1 and 7.6.3 are correct but I guess it would
make sense to either use PPA links for both or use
http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ for both.
Let us check. I think the 7.6.3 is a left-over. We have shut down our own
repo (see mailing list archive). Maybe the link just needs to be fixed. Or
there is no ppa for 7.6.3, in which case we'll remove the link.
Thanks,
Rainer
erik
With devel it works as expected.
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Erik Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
Old rsyslog.com used to have package repositories linked from menu on
top.
It looks like there are no links to any package repositores (Ubuntu or
other distros) anywhere to be found by clicking on links rsyslog.com.
There is HELP menu item which has FAQ link www.rsyslog.com/faq/ which
has 'How to use the Ubuntu repository' which goes to
www.rsyslog.com/how-to-use-the-ubuntu-repository/ which is outdated, I
guess it should just go to www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ instead
(which is where one eventually ends up by following the obsolete links)
There is also search that finds www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-
repository/which seems current.
I know it's in state of flux so not sure what should happen, seems to
me
that something like this would make sense:
- links to package repositories and installation docs accessible
directly from the front page (and any page actually, if they are in the
top
menu bar that is same for all pages)
- update or remove the outdated FAQ answer
thoughts? Is this something that's already planned? I remember
discusion
about what should happen to old Ubuntu repo (points people to new repo)
but
no discussions about how people will find the new repo.
erik
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