An honest survey is one which seeks and obtains opinion/feedback/data from both enthusiasts and reluctant ones. It is the tendency of disgruntled people to raise a hue and cry whereas satisfied people go back to their life as usual. Obviously, the former are more vocal and heeding to their voices alone would produce biased results.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sroy1947 Sent: 26 October 2009 12:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [rti_india] Fwd: Re: [HumJanenge] Only 27% RTI applicants get info sought Dear Rakesh I was so concerned about your issue of scientific accuracy and methodology that I decided to examine in-depth the records that Arvind Kejriwal's PCRF has put on their website: http://www.rtiawards.org/release.html I was concerned that PCRF has found IC MLS to be at the very bottom in terms of effectiveness. http://www.rtiawards.org/images/all_states_excel/CIC.xls Here are my "scientific observations" about PCRF's data. 1) Almost all of IC(MLS)'s 260 cases analysed by them seem to be those troublesome cases of 2006 till 2008 which Chief Information Commisisoner Mr Wajahat Habibullah did not or could not dispose off againstTROUBLESOME authorities like DDA /MoUD/ Delhi Police and Income Tax Dept. OBSERVATION: To hold Mr Sharma NOW responsible for non-compliance to Mr Habibullah's action is the height of folly and is IRRESPONSIBLE and UNSCIENTIFIC. 2) In the XLS worksheet provided THERE IS NOT A SINGLE INSTANCE of IC(MLS) being "Ineffective" (as defined by PCRF). And yet the PCRF has gone on to find that he is 89% ineffective. OBSERVATION: This finding is pure rubbish, or else there is some data which PCRF has not disclosed to us. 3) PCRF seems to have adopted a pick and choose policy concerning IC(MLS)'s orders and only surveyed 260 of his orders in the period when he had actually passed about 860+ orders. It appears that PCRF's methodology is UNSCIENTIFIC because they only included RESPONDENTS to THEIR survey, and not the ENTIRE DATA on CIC's website as our members did. I do HOPE that Mr Kejriwal (or his many chelas on this group) shall explain their findings to the RTI EXPERTS of this group - IF THEY DARE !!!! Sarbajit --- In [email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> , "sroy1947" <sroy1...@...> wrote: > > Dear Rakesh > > 1) The proof of the pudding is in the eating (or rather the voting). > > 2) We have about 600+ "active members" in this group of whom about > 230+ have Yahoo IDs (and were hence eligible to vote). > > 3) The "cream" of RTI India exercised their democratic franchise > and the results are before you. Shailesh Gandhi was opined to be > amongst our WORST ICs and M L Sharma THE BEST (for now !!!). > > 4) It is open to any member with a Yahoo ID to start their own poll. > > 5) M L Sharma is a former policeman and not a babu. He knows how to > tell "true" from "false" much better than the other ICs (and sift > "good" applicants from the "bad" ones). > > 6) It is pertinent that IC(SG) and IC(MLS) were sworn in at the same > time and are yet poles (polls?) apart in performance and client satisfaction rating. > > 7) If even a single member here thought that IC(MLS) was BAD, they could have rated him as such - the fact is that nobody did so. > > 8) After having conducted many polls at this group, we ensure > scientific and impartial methods automatically. All questions > listed were option "neutral" and "bland". In contrast I can > remind you of an "irresponsible" poll conducted at Sackhim > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sackhim/message/317 > > 9) It seems that not much has changed for Mr Habibullah image over > the years despite the methodology used. And yet, Arvind's survey > found Mr Habibullah to be no.4 of the top ICs of India. > > Sarbajit > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rakesh Agarwal" <rakesh@> wrote: > > > > Sarabjit, Shahid > > > > > > > > Shailesh Gandhi has come into his own although he initially faltered under > > the self-imposed pressure to reduce pendency. He has own weak points but we > > cannot doubt his motives. > > > > > > > > The charming Mr. M.L. Sharma has no private agenda but the legacy carried > > forward from his tenure as a bureaucrat does tend to cloud his judgment. > > That can be no reason to rank him at the bottom. > > > > > > > > I have had the good fortune to be in the company of a student from MIT > > recently for 3 weeks who taught me how to select sample size for a > > survey/research and how to actually administer a survey. He proved beyond > > doubt that different approaches could produce entirely different results. An > > impartial and scientific survey, he emphasised, would lead one closer to > > truth than to any preset results. > > > > > > > > Rakesh Agarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf > > Of sroy1947 > > Sent: 24 October 2009 14:45 > > To: [email protected] <mailto:rti_india%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [rti_india] Fwd: Re: [HumJanenge] Only 27% RTI applicants get info > > sought > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shahid, > > > > I am taking the liberty of replying to your mail on [RTI_India] as I am not > > allowed to post on [Hum Janenge] - although they do let me read the emails. > > > > A recently closed poll at RTI_India (open for everyone with a Yahoo ID to > > vote), confirms that Shailesh Gandhi is one of the worst ICs insofar as > > QUALITY of decisions goes - ranking only a shade higher than M M Ansari. The > > details / methodolgy and votes cast are at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rti_india/message/4781 > > > > Interestingly although Arvind's survey found IC M L SHARMA to be the "worst" > > commissioner, our members found him to be the BEST. > > > > Sarbajit > > > > --- In HumJanenge@ <mailto:HumJanenge%40yahoogroups.co.in> > > , Shahid Burney <seniorjourno@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vishal, > > > > I am surprised by the research and statement of Arvind Kejriwal that "The > > only commissioner with a background in activism, Shailesh Gandhi, was ranked > > at the bottom of the rung on each of the four parameters." > > > > Shailesh at the bottom of the rung on all the parameters? Can't accept and > > agree. In fact Shailesh deserves to be on the top, for he is the only IC who > > had performed extremely well as compared to any Information Commissioners. > > The more than 600 plus decisions which he delivers is a record by itself. I > > dont know the parameters of research of the NGO of which Arvind is a part of > > it. But, what I know is that no one would agree that Shailesh is failed and > > is down the ladder. At least not me. > > > > Shahid > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, vishalkudchadkar <v_kudz@> wrote: > > From: vishalkudchadkar <v_kudz@> > > Subject: [HumJanenge] Only 27% RTI applicants get info sought > > To: HumJanenge@ <mailto:HumJanenge%40yahoogroups.co.in> > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 3:07 AM > > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/india/ Only-27-RTI- applicants- > > get-info- sought/articlesh ow/5146890. cms > > > > Four years after the pioneering Right to Information regime came into force > > in India, many hurdles remain in the way of a citizen accessing information. > > Just 27 people out of 100 get the information they ask for. And, even if an > > information commission rules in your favour, there is a 61% chance you won't > > get the information because the rulings are not complied with. > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > >
