Thanks a lot for the clarifications. Actually I was referring to the DoPT/GoI's wordings "PROPER Receipt". So what really is a Proper Receipt ?
The word PROPER makes all the difference. Electronic transfers can generate receipts, but do they constitute a "PROPER RECEIPT" which the CPIO can accept (or deny as per his whims)? Whereupon in GoO scheme of things, one just have to "SUBMIT EVIDENCE" of payment. And that could be anything. And the SPIO cannot deny. As regards to Bankers becoming CAPIO, it's fantastic idea. No doubt. It would solve a lot of hassles. But when the Branch Managers are so reluctant to act as CAPIO to their own bank, do we really expect them to do the biddings for other PAs? Sidharth On 11/12/09, sroy1947 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Sidharth > > DoPT Rules are NOT the obstacle. The language used by DoPT is "cash against a > proper receipt". This would include all electronic transfers of money through > any system where transactions are properly accounted for TO THE P/A's ACCOUNT > (such as the post office system I mentioned). > > The other form of fee payment approved by DopT is through a "negotiable > instrument" like bankers cheque (LPO) or Demand Draft where no "receipts" can > be issued since these are not received directly by the PIO - but are > encashable in the normal course. > > A corollary to this (as we have previously discussed) is that IF (and this is > a big IF) Post Office officers can be APIOs then officers of Nationalised > Banks ought to be designated likewise. > > Sarbajit > > --- In [email protected], Sidharth <sidharthb...@...> wrote: > > > > I agree with what Sri. Sarbajit says about online payment of fees. > > > > DoPT's rules are the real stumbling blocks since it forbid us to go any > > further. DoPT must amend the rules to allow online payments. > > > > Luckily I have done that with State Level PA in Orissa since the same has > > been prescribed in the Orissa State Rules. I produce that part here. > > > > "Provided that a citizen seeking information through electronic means has to > > submit evidence regarding deposit of prescribed application fee." > > > > This is only for application fees. Payment of "Cost of information" is a > > separate ball game all together. > > > > Sidharth Misra > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:14 AM, sroy1947 <sroy1...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to fine tune the concept for further research by our members. > > > > > > The applicant submits his RTI request the the CAPIO of Postal Dept and > > > makes the e-payment for fee to account of any registered "biller" where it > > > will be consolidated to P/A's account. > > > > > > http://www.indiapost.gov.in/netscape/epayment.html > > > > > > I again want to clarify that the DopT cannot exclude by Rules the FORM of > > > payment into a P/As account. The Act's twin requirements are > > > > > > a) The fee must be "prescribed" - which as we know is Rs. 10 for the > > > application > > > > > > b) The payment (receipt) must ACCOMPANY the request. > > > > > > Sarbajit > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, "sroy1947" > > > <sroy1947@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > 1) section 6(1) r/w 27 makes it clear that the appropriate govt can only > > > prescribe the AMOUNT of the fee and NOT the mode of transmission of the > > > fee > > > - which does not preclude transmitting money electronically despite the > > > absence of rules. > > > > > > > > 2) So you should send an email to the PIO asking for the BANK > > > > particulars > > > and A/c head / sub-head of the P/A etc. to enable you to transfer funds > > > into > > > their account using netbanking / RTGS / NEFT / SWIFT etc, or even a direct > > > cash deposit into their account using the nearest CBS enabled branch near > > > you. > > > > > > > > Sarbajit > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <rti_india%40yahoogroups.com>, "Sameer > > > Sachdeva" <sachdeva_sameer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > RTI Request in Electronic Forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The section 6(1) of the RTI act states that, > > > > > "A person, who desires to obtain any information under this Act, shall > > > make a request in writing or through electronic means in English or Hindi > > > or > > > in the official language of the area in which the application is being > > > made, > > > accompanying such fee as may be prescribed..." > > > > > > > > > > Even though an applicant can submit appeals and second appeals under > > > RTI Act through e-mail (I have successfully) done that but in respect to > > > filing a RTI request an applicant cannot do so as there is no mean to > > > submit > > > the RTI fee of Rs 10 online. > > > > > > > > > > I will be glad if members of the forum can educate me on any provision > > > thereof and what needs to be done so that the same can be implemented. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sameer Sachdeva > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/India-egov/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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