On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:40:12PM -0700, ErichTheWebGuy wrote:
[...]
> I would, but I hope you would understand that my clients will likely
> be less than understanding if I have to say to them, "Sorry, I can't
> finish your project on time, because the documentation I need has been
> offline for days, and I am waiting for someone on Google Groups to
> answer my question."
> 
> Thank you for your responses, but unfortunately, it seems like
> Scriptaculous has not reached the level of maturity that I am looking
> for.

You have some logical fallacies and misapprehensions going on there. First
I'll list them out, then I'll address them.

1) unavailable documentation implies an inability to work with the library
2) the wiki being down implies that the wiki documentation is unavailable
3) the wiki documentation is the only documentation for Scriptaculous
4) downtime of one machine implies anything at all about the maturity of the
   library

Now, on to rebuttal.

First, I was distressed that the wiki was down and I was unable to get to
the documentation I was used to using. I had work to do, though, so I read
the source. Yup, what with it being an open source project and all, the
source is right out there for you to read. Furthermore, since it is not
only based on Prototype code but also style, and the Prototype
documentation is up and running, it was no problem to figure out what I
needed to do. So, yeah, while it may be easier to quick look something up
on the wiki, it's not that much harder to read the source and figure it
out. So much for #1.

As for #2, remember that anything on the web is never really gone. Google
has it cached, for one, and the Wayback Machine has the whole site (though,
granted, from no more recently than July of 2007):
http://web.archive.org/web/20070709235615rn_2/wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/

Other have already mentioned the various other documentation resources for
Scriptaculous, so I think it's pretty clear that #3 is right out. I will
also point out, as I have elsewhere concerning other open source projects,
that you are no more entitled to free documentation than you are entitled
to the functionality provided by the free code. It's a gift from a group of
authors. If they only give you the gift of functionality, you may decline
that gift but you are in no position to demand that they also provide free
documentation. If you are too cheap to buy the previously mentioned book
<http://www.pragprog.com/titles/cppsu> then you rely on whatever you can
Google or read in the source. Always keep in mind that it's all a gift.

Finally, concerning #4, the wiki is not implemented in JavaScript and its
downtime is completely unrelated to the maturity of the Scriptaculous
library. Why would you even imagine that there is a connection to be made
there? There's some guy who didn't invest in five nines of availability
for a machine running a wiki. Not only is he not (solely) responsible for
the library itself, his sysadmin interest and skills are unrelated to his
JS programming interest and skills. I'm completely baffled by this one.

Anyway, feel free to use whatever you want to use. Don't imagine that your
departure, especially on such logically weak grounds, is of great concern
to the Prototype/Scriptaculous community at large.

--Greg


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