I reiterate: if you change the subject, change the Subject! In case my subtlety is lost on you, lemme 'splain: if you start writing about something other than what the conversation was originally about, take a few seconds to change the Subject line of the message. (Or if you're writing directly on a web forum, it may be called the Title, or Re, or something else, but still you probably understand what I mean.)
Because certain people didn't do that (even though *I did* and thereby created a perfectly good thread in which to sidetrack the nonsense), we've now got all this repetitive dead-horse-beating about top/bottom/interspersed posting, polluting the thread in which JavierQQ was actually trying to get some help, and *some* of us were actually trying to help him. Making him, and the rest of us, wade through it (if at this point anybody but the post-order zealots is still reading this), is even MORE anti-productive, than whatever posting-placement you might think is most wrong. Think of it like a poorly named variable, method, or class. We see the subject line (go take a moment to look at it!), and expect it to be something about RoR validations, models, and controller defs, whatever those are. But instead we find the same old crap people have been arguing about for literally decades, about top posting. Like if Rails gives you a stack trace that says that you have an error in your method Category::rename_to_standard, and you find it has nothing to do with categories, naming, or standards, but does something utterly unrelated like maybe calculating a ballistic trajectory (and the whole application had nothing to do with ballistics), as part of an Easter-egg game that some overly clever but underly supervised bored programmer decided to stick into some gem you're using. Yes I know that by posting this message I am contributing to said noise -- but as my high school calculus teacher said, sometime you've got to make something uglier before you can make it pretty. NOW GET IT THE FSCK OUT OF HERE! :-P -Dave -- LOOKING FOR WORK! What: Ruby (on/off Rails), Python, other modern languages. Where: Northern Virginia, Washington DC (near Orange Line), and remote work. See: davearonson.com (main) * codosaur.us (code) * dare2xl.com (excellence). Specialization is for insects. (Heinlein) - Have Pun, Will Babble! (Aronson) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.

