On 5 November 2011 23:24, BeeRich <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 2011-11-05, at 7:07 PM, Michael Pavling wrote:
>>>> Many people find computer programming highly confusing... I'm not
>>>> going to stop encouraging them to get better at it…
>>>
>>> Which is along the same lines as not expecting people to have people format 
>>> emails the way you want them.
>>
>> I don't understand what you're saying here.
>
> Having expectations of everybody else conforming to what you prefer, is going 
> to shut down people's participation.

Yes, but I specifically don't understand how "Which is along the same
lines as not expecting people to have people format emails the way you
want them" has any relation to with me saying that I'm not going to
stop helping people improve their coding where possible.
Don't worry though - it's probably not worth the distraction (unless
it was very important, in which case, please do clarify)

> But that's the situation.  You can only assume that with a list where there 
> is nothing formally posted to instruct people, and with a population in a 
> list that's healthy, that there are all three types of posters around.

I "assume" based on reading all the threads (and I read 'em all...),
and seeing the amount and quality of people who post in different
ways. Most of the requests are poorly written, most of the best
assistance is well written.

> Interleaving makes sense to you.  Other people say top posting makes sense.

Yes... people say all sorts of cr@p about all sorts of stuff. But not
everyone's opinion is worth the same. Look at the quality of posts
from people, and judge their "opinions" by that.

> You just insist that your preference is right.

urm... no. I insist that the right way is what I prefer ;-)

> And the response is that other people prefer other ways because they find it 
> easier.  Have you considered that?

I don't need to consider it - no-one has ever posted a response to a
reply here saying "please don't interleave your response, it's too
easy to see what line you're responding to". Why spend time
considering something which has never happened?

The only "easy" that top or bottom-posting-without-any-trimming is is
easy for the sender - because it's quick and lazy.

>> So in this event, if the poster continues to abide by their
>> "preference", they're being deliberately ignorant of the simple
>> requests of the people that are most likely to help them. A little
>> courtesy goes a long way.=
>
> …and then you continue to call them ignorant, because they don't agree with 
> you.  And you wonder why topics never progress.

I'm calling their behaviour ignorant, and I've said they're
demonstrating ignorance - we can certainly all behave ignorantly from
time-to-time.

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