On 2011-11-05, at 7:07 PM, Michael Pavling wrote: >>>> >>>> Many people don't like this format of interspersing. They find it highly >>>> confusing. >>> >>> Many people find computer programming highly confusing... I'm not >>> going to stop encouraging them to get better at it… >> >> Which is along the same lines as not expecting people to have people format >> emails the way you want them. > > I don't understand what you're saying here.
Three types of ways you can format a reply. - top posting - bottom posting - interspersed Having expectations of everybody else conforming to what you prefer, is going to shut down people's participation. >> See, it isn't about you. It's not ignorance because you say so. > >>> Given the choice of loads of confusion, or little; I'll choose the lesser. >> >> For your expectations, sure. I don't mind it. THAT is my point. > > I'm talking about the confusion upon *all* readers totalled together - > not just the confusion of an individual reader. > When lots of people read and reply with top or bottom posted email, > there's lots of confusion. When another lot read and reply with > interleaving, there's generally less confusion. But that's the situation. You can only assume that with a list where there is nothing formally posted to instruct people, and with a population in a list that's healthy, that there are all three types of posters around. Interleaving makes sense to you. Other people say top posting makes sense. Other people say bottom posting makes sense. Arguments all around. That's why it's a dead topic, because there is never a winner. >>>> Why do you think email applications have things like thread organization? >>> >>> As an attempt by developers to make up for poorly composed emails? >> >> So now it's a developers issue, and other people who simply do not know how >> to use email? > > I'm suggesting that the developers add the functionality of thread > organisation to attempt to compensate for the situation that has > resulted from people not being able to compose messages nicely. > I'm not implying that it's the developers' *fault* there's top-posting > (unless they're the developers of Outlook ;-) You just insist that your preference is right. >> I'm saying don't bitch when people do things their way... I'm continuing to >> repeat myself here, and you still don't get it. > > And you don't seem to have "got it" either. No-one has "bitched". It > was suggested to a poster not to top-post, because the people (or at > least a large portion of them) that are attempting to help would find > it easier to help if their messages were composed differently. And the response is that other people prefer other ways because they find it easier. Have you considered that? > So in this event, if the poster continues to abide by their > "preference", they're being deliberately ignorant of the simple > requests of the people that are most likely to help them. A little > courtesy goes a long way.= …and then you continue to call them ignorant, because they don't agree with you. And you wonder why topics never progress. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
