On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 06:12:03PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 12:58:52PM +0100, Alexander Huemer 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > effectively unusable on my gentoo boxes and I have to use alternative 
> 
> In effectively 100% of the cases, weird problems on gentoo are due to
> gentoo and the admin of the box, which is why I don't do any gentoo
> support anymore.

I am very sorry to hear that.
In the past gentoo served me well and I am not at all used to 'weird 
problems', although I use the testing branch.
It seems like you speak out of frustration, may I ask what particular 
events caused your negative view on gentoo?
 
> Try to reproduce your problem on sth. else, or use a clean gentoo install
> (with the *recommended* optimisation switches), and most likely, your
> problem will silently go away on its own.

I am not really sure which optimisation switches you mean.
In case it's CFLAGS you are talking about:

  -O2 -pipe -march=nocona -fomit-frame-pointer

Can you elaborate on why it would be a good idea to redo the gentoo 
bootstrap? In the seven years that I use gentoo now, nobody suggested 
something like this. And to be honest, I myself am unable to see why 
that would help me to debug the problem, which is what I want to do. I 
more assume that that would _maybe_ make the problem go away _silently_ 
without anybody getting an idea of what the problem even was.
 The problem that I am facing can potentially be a bug in rxvt-unicode, 
ncurses, one of the X11 libraries or something else.
A lot of problems are first discovered on gentoo testing for obvious 
reasons and a fix for that may be of benefit for everybody, not only 
gentoo users.
 It may be also of interest that I see that problem on all my gentoo 
boxes (2).

I again ask (the whole list) for hints how to debug this problem.

In particular:
* Are there certain versions of X11 libraries that are known to make 
  problems in combination with rxvt-unicode
* Were there similar problems in the past?
  + If yes then: What was the cause? How could that be fixed?

Thanks in advance for everybody's time.

Kind regards,
-Alexander Huemer

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