On Thursday, June 2, 2005, at 09:21 AM, John Degnan wrote:

> Groups,
>
> I have finally accepted that if I am to get the freight cars I want in 
> S scale, I just need to stop waiting and revert back to 
> scratch-building.  So...
>
> ... I'm looking for input on how to make steel boxcar sides from 
> scratch.  What type of material is best (Sheet styrene?  Other?), and 
> what methods work best for simulating sheet-metal overlaps (joints), 
> rivets and other details?  I'd like the thickness of these sides to 
> allow for interior detail, yet remain at least close to the actual 
> thickness of the walls of the prototype... in short, as prototypical 
> as possible.  I'd also like to know the best methods some of you have 
> come up with for attaching ends, roofs and floors to the type 
> materials you used to make the sides.  I could also use some 
> references to readily-availible, fine scale (the best there is) detail 
> parts.

John,

For this type of project I would use sheet styrene. For things like 
seams I have gotten pretty good results layering .005 material. This is 
about a 1/3 of an inch so it works for that overlap affect. As for 
rivets I now use NWSL senipress/riveter attached to my lathe table. 
This gives me very accurate X-Y positioning. There is a photo of my 
set-up on my web site: 
http://webpages.charter.net/kbt1/G22_Project.html The NWSL machine 
comes with a single direction table that is not very accurate, but if 
you are careful you should be able to get reasonable results. I tend to 
use the two smallest dies for rivets. Rivet size depending on the 
thickness of the styrene and the size of the actual rivet. I have found 
that only the smallest die works on .005 styrene and that I need to use 
larger sizes on thicker material. One key to layering thin styrene, 
particularly if the sheet has been embossed with rivets, is to use ACC 
and not 'welding' type cement. The welding cement will melt the thin 
styrene and very easily damage the fine rivet detail. (That tip was, 
thankfully, imparted to me by Billy Wade of BTS).

Do you want to make multiple copies of these cars? If so, consider 
resin casting. For a box car this would be fairly easy. In fact if you 
are only making one car, go with casting, then you only have to make 
one side and one end! It is pretty easy, get a starter kit from 
Micro-Mark. i believe it includes instructions. Also, there have been a 
couple of articles on resin casting Model Railroader recently. I write 
a little bit about casting on my web page listed above. Also, if you 
follow the links of the 'article' there is a close-up photo of the 
gondola end showing rivet details in styrene and photos of the painted 
model showing some detail.

Good luck!

Regards,
kbt


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